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Eugene Area Chamber-ACCE Chamber of the Year Finalist with Brittany Quick-Warner

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Guest Introduction

You’re joining us for another episode and our 2022 ACCE chamber the year finalist series and for this episode, we’re joined by Brittany Quick-Warner. Brittany is the president and CEO of the Eugene Area Chamber in Oregon. Brittany has successfully served in multiple capacities in her seven years with the chamber. Beginning in late 2016. Brittany served as interim president and CEO during the sudden medical leave and passing of the long term president and CEO and was ultimately selected in September 2017. To serve as the next President and CEO of the Eugene chamber. Brittany is the youngest and first known woman to lead the 1200 member organization. She has been active in the community since her arrival, serving as board member for several organizations including onward Eugene, travel Lane County, the Arts and Business Alliance of Eugene, bring recycling, better Eugene Springfield transportation and the Junior League of Eugene, as well as serving on the Eugene sustainability Commission and the Lane County poverty and homelessness board. She currently serves on the board of directors for WAC II and ACC. Brittany, I’m excited to have you with me today on Chamber Chat Podcast and congratulations being selected as a chamber of the year finalist. I’d love for you to take a minute to say hello to all the Chamber Champions and share something interesting about yourself so we can all get to know you a little better.

Brittany Quick-Warner 2:41
Thanks, Brandon. I appreciate it. Super excited to be here with everyone. Like Brandon said, my name is Brittany and I have the honor of being the chamber CEO here at the Eugene Oregon chamber. I have actually been with our chamber for nine years, I realized, as you read that my bio, um, the small things that you’ve never remember to do. Yeah, so it’ll be nine years this summer. And when I got into this job, it was one of those things I definitely never knew or thought I would be a chamber staffer. I really honestly came into it not really knowing exactly what Chambers of Commerce do so. But I very quickly caught the bug and have been incredibly honored and blessed to have opportunities within the industry that have really kept me here because it’s a little bit sticky once you get really dug in. So something people don’t know or might not know about me. So I’m from the Midwest, I grew up in Kansas City. And my whole life I was a huge weather nerd actually got my bachelor’s degree in atmospheric science and was on the tornado chasing team. And that’s one of the I think most um, I don’t know, one of the saddest things about moving to the West Coast is we have much more boring weather.

Brandon Burton 4:02
We don’t have tornadoes, and yeah, exactly

Brittany Quick-Warner 4:04
my husband’s like, Okay, you have a different bar than most people. But yeah, and actually, I worked in emergency management before I moved to Eugene. So I work for the State Emergency Management Office in Missouri. And it is remarkable how many of the skills that I learned in that job, I deployed over the last couple of years as chamber CEO during the pandemic, so you never know where those previous lives will come back. So

Brandon Burton 4:30
yeah, so I’m in the Texas area. So I know what it’s like when these tornadoes pop up. And it is very interesting. And I’ll have family and friends call me and say, Are you okay? And I am on my back porch watching this thing, you know?

Brittany Quick-Warner 4:45
Yeah, it’s funny when I talk to people and worrying about that. They’re just like, wait, what? How are you kidding? I’m like, no, that’s just when you’re from the Midwest. You just kind of get used to it.

Brandon Burton 4:54
Let’s roll with it. Yeah. So tell us a little bit more about the Eugene’s. chamber, give us an idea of the size of the chamber staff budget scope of work just to kind of give us an idea before we get into our discussion.

About the Eugene Area Chamber

Brittany Quick-Warner 5:09
Yeah, of course. So our chamber has about 1200 Members, we have kind of bounced around between second and third largest chamber in the state of Oregon. We have currently 15 staff. When I got into this position five years ago, we had about six staff. So we’ve grown really quickly and pretty significantly in the last five years. We our budget this year is about 1.9 million. And it’s pretty split between a couple of different revenue streams. So we obviously have our membership base, which is about 30% of our income. We also just a couple years ago, which we can talk a little bit more about launched onward, Eugene, which is the economic development kind of entity for our region after a lot of turmoil in that space as a community for a while. And so a good portion of our income comes through the management of that entity. And then our sponsorships are about 35% of what our revenue is and and then we do a handful of events that bring in a little bit of revenue to

Brandon Burton 6:20
Alright, that’s good. Yeah, that that really helps to kind of set the table for discussion. So as a one of these chamber the year finalist episodes but at what I’ve been doing, what I like to do is focus on the two programs, the program synopsis included on your chamber the year application, and I look forward to learning about these programs and sharing some of those details as soon as they get back from this quick break.

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Alright, Brittany, we’re back. If you would just take us through what the two programs are that you guys submitted on your chamber the your application, maybe just from a high level and then we’ll we can circle back and go into some more detail on those programs.

Topic-Chamber of the Year Application Programs

Brittany Quick-Warner 9:52
Yeah, of course. So this was our first time applying for chamber of the year at least in my tenure, and honestly we were pretty intimidated by the process for a while. And I will say it’s not an easy or it’s not a quick process. There’s a lot of time and effort that has to be put into it. But for those of you listening who think, oh, gosh, I don’t know if I could ever do that. It’s totally worth it. And I will say that because one of the things is it forces you to really think about, okay, where have we found success? And what programs do we have that are really cutting edge, and we’re really kind of pushing the envelope. And I think as chamber executives, we, we sometimes often move on to the next thing very quickly, without celebrating like, hey, we actually are doing some good stuff here. And we should, we should think about that. So it was hard for us to kind of whittle it down to a couple of programs that we really wanted to highlight. But the two that we did choose, one of them is last year, we launched a freemium membership model. So a basic membership that is 100%, free to, to folks to join the chamber, and took a lot of time to really analyze that decision to do that. Think about pros and cons. But ultimately, the reasoning behind it were was a couple of reasons. One, we were diving really deep into work on equity, inclusion and diversity and really trying to analyze internally, what can we do as an organization to really create a more equitable, membership and organization and more inclusive, and have a lot of listening sessions with bipoc members in our community and businesses who maybe weren’t members of the chamber and giving some perspective as to why. So that’s one piece. But then we also do a lot of advocacy as an organization. And we wanted to make sure that we could really bring in as many businesses as possible to help advocate on their behalf. Which leads to the second synopsis that we applied, using, which is the work we’ve been doing around homelessness. So the city of Eugene and Lane County, which is a county we sit in, we have more than 4000 individuals living on the streets of our community on housed. It’s one of the highest per capita in the country. And it is a really, it’s a crisis. And it is growing. And it’s feels to a lot of folks in the community like it’s completely out of control. And that was an issue that our businesses really kind of stepped up and said, we have got to do something and where is the chamber out on this issue? And how are we influencing the future of, of our community and the prosperity of these individuals who have living on the streets. So we dove in really deep, and we can talk a little bit more about the details of that program. But ultimately, what we ended up doing was releasing a really extensive report on the state of homelessness in our community. And then that has catalyzed a ton of things that have come out of it. One of it being a business leaders taskforce of over 100 businesses who’ve come together to really say we want to provide leadership in this space. So I can go into more detail about

Brandon Burton 13:09
let’s, let’s start with that one. So homelessness, and the focus you guys are putting on there, because I think there’s, there’s so many unique traits and attributes, you know, they go across that topic that, hey, and you guys probably ever realized there’s no one one size fits all right, for all the different reasons why somebody may be homeless. So as you dug in, and did research and and looked at what the problem is, what are some of those things that you’ve discovered? And have you gone about addressing it?

Brittany Quick-Warner 13:42
Yeah, good question. So when we decided that we needed to have some sort of voice in this, I very much said to my board, I don’t know what our role should be. At this point. There’s a lot of places where it feels like, we need improvements. And I don’t know what the Chamber’s role is. And I think we have two options. One, we can either just get really mad and angry about the state of this crisis and marched down to City Hall and pound our fists on the table and tell our city councilors, you have to do something about this. Which if I looked, you know, if I fast forward five years, and I looked back at this moment, I could not honestly say that I felt like that would make an impact on the number of people sleeping on the streets. And the other option was to get really deep and strategic and to to flex that problem solving muscle that a lot of chambers have that they might not feel like this is their problem to solve. But the reality is it’s impacting our businesses. It’s impacting our local economy. It’s impacting the overall livability of our community. And those individuals living on the streets obviously are in dire need of someone to advocate for better quality of life as well. So we decided to go that route. It was the harder of the two options. But what that looked like was, was us as it’s chamber has staff going out and having individual conversations with over 200 people in our community to really understand the issue deeper and to try to help suss out what are some of the barriers or the roadblocks that we’re facing in our system that has gotten to this point, we talked to unhoused individuals themselves, we talked to business owners to every nonprofit that works in this space in our community, which there’s a lot of them. We talked to communities across the country to try to find out best practices, what others are doing. And ultimately, what we had was about 250 pages of notes from all of these conversations that we realized we needed to do something with. And we knew we weren’t the experts on this. But we had gleaned an enormous amount of information that we really felt like if we could summarize this down and boil it to a handful of recommendations, just based on what we’ve learned from all these experts in our community, that we could bring a lot more clarity to the conversation. And so that’s what we did, we’re gonna release this report, which is a living document where, you know, we’re kind of always sort of going back and finding ways to improve or other ideas. But one of the things, you know, that we heard a lot in the community is we don’t know what’s happening in this space, or whatever is happening isn’t working, or we don’t think anything is happening at all. And all of those things were leading to this sense of hopelessness amongst community members that we will never be able to get our heads wrapped around this problem. So out of that, what we came up with was eight recommendations that we felt like if we could focus in on these eight areas, and move some initiatives forward together as a community, that we can make a real, real dent, in in that enhanced number. And a couple of key areas that we really pushed on is one, better accountability and transparency. Our city and county officials are the entities that control really the conversation around homelessness and services and funding. And they’re doing good work. But there’s not very good communication or transparency coming out of those entities. And so it’s causing this sense of hopelessness. The second was, there was no, there is no clear shared vision, every person we talked to had a different idea of what the end goal was. And we all know that without a really clear shared vision for what we’re trying to accomplish, we’re going to be going in different directions. Even if we all have the same sort of, you know, good hearted intentions.

We also knew that our community needed to take a serious look at how we’re holding people accountable. And that was something that we knew was going to get us a little bit of pushback, because a lot of times in this space, people don’t want to associate crime and homelessness. And we weren’t trying to by any way, say that we’re trying to criminalize homelessness, but there is crime happening on our streets that people need to be held accountable for. We also talked about good data, about wraparound services and how individuals we might be getting them into shelter, but we’re not providing them this the services they need to actually get well. So those eight recommendations came out. And one of the biggest ones that we’ve been pushing all along is this crisis is bigger than our city and our county can handle on their own, it’s bigger than our nonprofit community can handle on its own. It is to the point where it is truly the entire community’s issue that we all have to come together around the table to try and solve. And we’ve honestly, I think, gotten a surprising amount of pushback from some of our local park or government partners in sort of letting go of of some of those pieces and allowing private sector to come to the table to say, What could we be doing to contribute positively to this conversation. So that idea of collective impact and a shared vision is one that we’ve really been trying to hone in on as a chamber and to try to convene enough voices to actually achieve that shared that shared vision, or identify and then achieve that shared vision. So all of this really like capacity building community building work, is exactly where I think chambers should be in their communities. And while it feels maybe like that’s not a space that we should operate in, I think it 100% is if you’re living up to being the convener, catalyst champion chamber for your community, right. And there is a bottom line impact on businesses. So I do think there’s an argument for the chamber being involved in that conversation. We’ve been able to catalyze some really cool projects out of this. We’ve had private sector folks who are now coming to the table who’ve never been engaged in this and they’re coming up with these really big visionary ideas that they have the resources to execute on, that no one else had even thought about, including that person in the conversation and now they’re adding to the pie instead of splitting it up amongst other nonprofits. So it’s been a year Ever since we really started digging into this, and we’ve already, you know, we’ve already seen about 200 temporary, but emergency shelters open up that private sector individuals gave their space to be used for that, that were not happening before the chamber got involved in this conversation, we have a couple of workforce pilots, where we have a local business owner who’s starting an entire different business line specifically, and only for hiring unhoused individuals and building a workforce pipeline for them to get trained into other industry jobs in the community. We have really great communications out to businesses about how to protect their properties, how to report issues, if they have them resources for if they do have crime, or an incident happen. So, you know, we’re some low hanging fruit, but then also some really cool. Like I said, visionary projects that wouldn’t have happened if the chamber hadn’t has said, Hey, let us bring all these businesses to the conversation as well.

Brandon Burton 20:59
Right now, as I think of this topic, I view it as an onion, right, it’s got all these layers to it. And I agree, I think the chamber is the perfect entity to peel back those layers and to convene, you kind of reorganize and put put things together and get those right, you know, example together and look at what the real problems are. Because it for whatever reason, and you know, various cities throughout the country. Homelessness tends to be attracted to certain cities, for whatever reason, you know, for a variety of reasons, we’ll say. So to be able to identify what those reasons are, and then why you go about trying to solve the problem, to not make it more attractive for you know, to drum. It’s it’s a, it’s a balance and multiple layers,

Brittany Quick-Warner 21:46
for sure. Yeah, yeah. And I think just setting the table, like I said, for more people to come and sit and contribute positive ideas, and that’s something we’ve been very intentional about is this is not a space for you to come in to complain or event, right. We’ve all done that. We all know what the issues are. This is a place for you to say, okay, given all this information, I have here some ideas that I want to bring to the conversation. And it’s we’ve been really successful in that. And I think that’s one thing that even if there’s skeptics out there about the chamber, really leading this conversation, what we’ve gotten is great feedback that they feel like, okay, this is definitely constructive. It’s, you know, it’s moving us in the right direction, and not just distracting us from the overall goal, which has been really rewarding,

Brandon Burton 22:31
right. And in the end, it makes a huge impact on the community as a whole. So I think that’s a great, great program, great area of focus, for sure. Let’s shift gears a little bit over to your freemium model. Curious, did you guys reach out and talk to like Tom Baldrige or any of these other chambers that have rolled out freemium models in the past? Yeah, so

Brittany Quick-Warner 22:55
we, there was a couple of chambers out there that we knew when we started doing this research. And so we did we sit down, we sat down Tiffany Esposito down in Florida. And I believe my staff might have talked to Tom as well. Just to say, like, you know, you’re a few few months ahead of us, like, how’s it going? And we got good feedback from them that, you know, so far, so good. And our board was definitely interested in, in just looking at membership structures overall differently and trying to say, like, are we being proactive in the way that we’re sort of selling ourselves to the community. And it helped, I had a tech CEO as my board chair, during the time that we were having this discussion and, and he’s, he was the first one to say, like, our business model is totally based on freemium, you know, applications and services that we then convert into paid customers. And so you know, he really encouraged us to look at that at that model as not a way to give away our membership. But to bring more people in who we maybe wouldn’t have had the hook for prior to offering an option that really does just expose them to all the things that they could be investing in, right.

Brandon Burton 24:08
And chambers often say they’re the voice of business. And to be able to say, we’re the voice of business, but not your business, because you’re not a dues paying member doesn’t really seem right either. So I like the idea of a freemium model and being there as a support for all the business in your community. It’s just a matter of making it work to where the revenue still works out and your chamber can still function, right? Yeah. And

Brittany Quick-Warner 24:31
the Yeah, honestly, the pandemic was a big motivator for us because what we did is a lot of our a lot of our programs and the training and the information resources that we were putting out to the community, we took down that paywall for all of it during a pandemic. We wanted anyone and everyone who has a business to be to hear about and to have access to these resources. We did a lot of web hours and trainings on all of the federal regulations and you know, grants and all all of these things that were coming out. And we were not restricted to just members in that space. And so what we saw was a lot of people that had never engaged with the chamber, and then also would have never heard about any of those resources, if it wasn’t for the chamber reaching out to them, even though they weren’t a member saying, hey, take a look at this thing. And so that is what really inspired us to say, like, Okay, we could do this, we could open it up, we could bring more people under the umbrella. And then it’s on us as chamber staff, and as you know, our board leadership to show the value of their investment. So they hopefully transition up to a paid member, we’re just coming up on a year of this program. Actually, July one is when we launched it last year. And so right now, our membership staff have a strategy for getting, you know, obviously, they’ve been coordinating or engaging with those members all year, but making sure to sit down and have those sales conversations about hey, come in at this other level. And here’s the benefits we can provide. And here’s what your investment is getting you. And so that was one of the other motivations is it’s a built in sales pipeline, right? How many Tony chambers have sat there and sort of like bang their heads against the wall saying, where’s my leads? How do I get more leads in my sales pipeline, and we have 150 new members that are in our premium membership that now are built in sales pipeline for selling paid memberships. So, so far, we’ve done good, and in some of those conversions, we’re still sort of waiting on the big kind of number of how many of those people transition in the first year. So preliminarily, the numbers look good as far as our ability to retain and to bring in new members. But you know, jury’s still out a little bit to see how it ends up after a year.

Brandon Burton 26:52
So as you rolled out this program, the premium model, how did you go about informing the businesses in your community? Did you get a business list from the county and just do a mass mailing? Or how did you go about the messaging to get that out?

Brittany Quick-Warner 27:07
Yeah, good question. So our community, I think, is disadvantaged in that we don’t have a business license program. And so there is no formal like registration here locally for businesses, which would be so fantastic. And I’m we’re trying to convince our city, that’s a good idea. So it’s been really word of mouth, we leaned heavily on our board and some of our other members to sort of say, hey, invite somebody that you know, who maybe wants to consider the chamber, we had a really strong sort of marketing strategy, that first three months of the program, we did radio, we did TV, we had commercials, I was kind of going around and speaking to rotary clubs and other entities that have business affiliates, or memberships. And we had, we saw a lot of folks start coming in, and that in that first three months with just that general promotion, and then we’ve kind of just left it open. And as we’ve engaged folks, we we didn’t set a strong sort of number. On the freemium side, if we want to hit X number of members, we have an overall membership goal. And so, you know, that freemium membership will help us get to those numbers that we’re trying to achieve that way. But, you know, we were pretty regimen in the whole process, you know, we did a lot of deep work with our board to help them, you know, make sure they were comfortable with it, talk to other chambers laid out what the program would look like, got very specific on the benefits for that free membership, it’s very scaled back from what are other benefits offer, obviously. And then we did a lot of kind of focus groups talking to folks and got their feedback on it and, and then ultimately launched it. And it has helped us save some members, too. That wasn’t the main goal. But we have some businesses that you all know, did not fare well during the pandemic, and they appreciate want to continue to support the chamber. But financially, they aren’t able to, we’re able to bump them down to that freemium level, and then flag their membership database to like, get them back up, hopefully the next year. So instead of losing them all together, we get to keep them in the chamber kind of channels and networks, and then hopefully come bring them back up to a paid member later.

Brandon Burton 29:19
Yeah. And as far as to sharing information with them, and keeping them in the loop of what you’re doing advocacy wise, and things like that doesn’t really cost anything, you know, timewise so why not just keep them involved?

Brittany Quick-Warner 29:31
Yeah, and the other thing that, you know, that we have, we’re monitoring as well is the non dues revenue that they bring in, right, so our freemium members, now we’re on our email list, they see all the events that we have, and they’re paying to attend those events that they wouldn’t have been before they are a member. So we are seeing a good amount of of non dues revenue coming from those free members who are now advertising and they have a higher cost for advertising because you’re not a paid member for attending events. So yeah, there’s a little bit of that happening too, which is good, because we’re at least capturing some sort of revenue from that additional base of membership.

Brandon Burton 30:07
Yeah, absolutely. That’s great. So I wanted to ask you, Brittany, if How do you see the role of the Eugene chamber there in your community?

Brittany Quick-Warner 30:20
How do I see the roll? So, for those of you who are not familiar with ACC II, came out with the Horizon Report a handful of years ago. And in that report, there are a handful of sort of realities that they were predicting that chambers and associations and just sort of the world in general were leaning towards. And one of the things that really stuck out for me in that Horizon Report in which I, you know, I’m constantly going back to with our staff, is this idea of being the sane center. And, and not being afraid to dive into issues, but really, truly trying to bring a non bias perspective to the conversation. We have done advocacy for a long time. But even more so in the last couple of years, have really leaned into this place of being able to, to pull people from all across the community together to say, Look, our overall goal is economic prosperity, and people living happy, healthy lives in this community. And to do that we can’t be, you know, politically, ideological in one way or the other as a chamber. And so we want to represent the st center, the place where I feel like we can find some alignment. And I really think that in our community, our chamber has been really respected for that. And it’s a place that I’m proud for us to be we’re very data driven, we want to see the the actual impacts not just this hyperbolic kind of fear mongering. And because of that, I think we’ve been really successful in our advocacy because people really do respect how much kind of deep research we do on issues before we come out with a position or try to advocate.

Brandon Burton 32:02
Yeah, and I think being the same Senator goes back to the chamber, just seeing a trusted resource to like you had mentioned through the pandemic, these small businesses not knowing where to turn for some of these answers. And you could look at a social media post, or you could look to the chamber who’s done the research. And and same thing with being the same Senator, you can watch these polarizing news channels, or you can look at the Chamber who’s looking at the data and looking out for your interest as a business in the community.

Brittany Quick-Warner 32:27
Yeah, absolutely. And I you know, not to downplay, it’s not easy, often hearing that voice, because it takes a lot more work to actually have done your homework and, and to seek out multiple sources and to really hear both sides out.

Brandon Burton 32:41
And to put aside prices, right? Yep,

Brittany Quick-Warner 32:44
exactly, exactly. However, I think it gets us further in the long run. So it’s worth the extra effort upfront.

Brandon Burton 32:51
Absolutely. So Brittany, what might be maybe a tip or an action item for listeners who are interested in taking their chamber up to the next level? What might you suggest for them?

Action Item/Tip for Chamber Champions

Brittany Quick-Warner 33:03
Oh, my goodness, I think one of the things that I did early on that really kind of opened my eyes to what’s possible, is I I sat down and like very methodically went through chambers and other communities that I felt like, I wanted to be right, who we aspire to be like, and almost every one of them was in a community that was bigger than us that had more resources than us that had more members. And they weren’t able to do bigger things. Because of that, that level. And I think often if we just kind of look at the folks who are our peers, or who have are similarly resourced, we kind of keep our minds kind of close to what we could be doing. We implemented the Entrepreneurial Operating System, or Eos, which is explained in a book called traction. And Jane Clark at the Michigan West chamber was the speaker at an ACC conference about five and a half years ago that I heard talk about this. And I was absolutely, I just felt like, oh my gosh, someone just planted this in front of me the exact time that I needed it. We were in chaos art, my CEO had just passed away. We were trying to get our feet together under us. I was a new CEO. So I had never managed an organization before. And I desperately needed a tool to help us just like organize and set goals, and just get really strategic with our work. And that US process has helped us do that. But one of the things in that process is looking at 10 years out on a horizon and then backing up three years in one year, and actually visualizing what your organization will look like in 10 years and putting numbers to it. We put a revenue goal, we put a member size we put a retention rate, we put the number of staff that we wanted to see. So and then we backed up In three years, so 2022 was our three year or three year out picture for when we started this. We had envisioned 14 staff in our organization. And we were six people when we started doing this. Here we are in 2022. With 15 staff members, we envision a $2 million revenue. Here we are 1.9. I’m hoping we we beat our budget, and we get that 2 million we envisioned applying for and winning chamber of the year. So we’ll see, I think the honor of at least being a finalist, and you can look at it from three years ago, it was on our list of like, what is what do we imagine for ourselves? And it was remarkable to me how much just that sort of very specific visioning helped us actually get there, right, like putting an actual number to it. And then creating a roadmap to hit that number. And chambers of any size could do that. Right? It’s not it doesn’t have to be like, Oh, well, they’re a big chamber, or they, you know, have X number of members or whatever. Absolutely, you can do that as a one person, staff, volunteer staff member, you know, you can say, in 10 years, what I want to look like in three years, and then how do I get there? So to me, I feel like I we I owe a lot of credit to James Clark is with us process. And then just to our staff for being willing to dream big. We like to, I like to think about it as well, not how sometimes we we How the heck out of things, but we just need to sort of say what is our big vision, and let’s not tear it apart the first time it gets thrown out into the world, and then figure out how to get there. So yeah,

Brandon Burton 36:38
I love that creating that vision, it shows you what’s possible. And then as you create that roadmap, it aligns the resources to make it happen. Yeah. And as it comes together, it’s kind of like, holy smokes, how did this happen? Together, but we have a cup of

Brittany Quick-Warner 36:53
staff who are not with our chamber anymore. They’ve graduated out into the community, I like to say, who wrote me when they saw we post about the chamber of the year, nom, and they’re like, that was on our three year vision, like we actually did it. So it’s kind of fun to like, pull back in some folks who had been there. And they were a part of that. And they remember

Brandon Burton 37:11
that, too. It was impactful that they remember the timeline, and they know that it’s happening. Yeah, that’s awesome. Yeah. Well, as we look to the future of chambers, how do you see the future of chambers and their purpose going forward?

Future of Chambers

Brittany Quick-Warner 37:27
Oh, gosh, I think a lot about this being on the WAC and ACC board. I feel, and we’ve heard this from leaders in the industry over the last couple years, I feel like chambers are more valuable and more needed than ever right now. And a lot of it is because of so much just polarization in our world. And I think if chambers can rise above the fray, and really play that same center role and take that problem solver role seriously, communities are going to be desperate for someone who they can look to who’s local, who understands their local issues. It’s not some, you know, outside of the community, who has the interest of everyone in the community at heart and who can who can convene, and do so in a way that people respect and they want to they want to be a part of it. So to me, chambers of the future are not, I think will always be interested in in businesses and representing businesses, because I think the private sector is one that desperately needs to be a part of the solution. But I think that we’re going to be challenged to with solving bigger community issues than just sort of taxes and opposing taxes or supporting taxes, right. It’s homelessness. It’s our housing crisis, its climate and energy. It’s, you know, some of these big hairy issues that our country is facing. If all our chambers got together and really pushed out an agenda around homelessness at the federal level, I think we could do an enormous amount of good at actually impacting this crisis. So that’s where I feel like the future of chambers are is solving those big community issues that are desperate for someone with with respect to step up and solve them.

Brandon Burton 39:11
Yeah, well, everybody heard it here, first Britney’s vision of the future. So we’ll see. What’s the timeframe on this year.

Brittany Quick-Warner 39:18
Three years, give me three years

Brandon Burton 39:21
will solve all the world’s issues, at least the country’s issues and three. So Brittany, I’d like to give you an opportunity to share any contact information for listeners who might want to reach out and connect and learn more about how you guys are doing things here in Eugene, what would be the best way for them to reach out and connect with

Connect with Brittany Quick-Warner

Brittany Quick-Warner 39:39
you? Absolutely. So my email brittanyw@eugenechamber.com. And happy to also have folks give my cell phone or my office phone a call. If you go to the Eugene chamber website on our staff page, you can find those numbers as well. And I Absolutely love connecting with other chambers. I was very lucky to have other CEOs who said yes to me when I was new in this role, and still do for me to pick their brains. So I love returning the favor.

Brandon Burton 40:11
It’s so important. It really is. Well, Brittany, this has been a great discussion. I’ve had a lot of fun learning from you and and learning about these programs you guys are implementing and really making a difference there. And Eugene, so thank you for spending time with us today. And I wish you and your staff Best of luck as chamber the year.

Brittany Quick-Warner 40:31
Yes, thank you so much for the opportunity. I appreciate it.

Brandon Burton 40:34
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Conway Area Chamber-ACCE Chamber of the Year Finalist with Brad Lacy

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This is a special episode and our 2022 ACCE Chamber the Year Finalist series, and our guests for this episode is Brad Lacy, the President and CEO of the Conway Area Chamber in Arkansas. Brad is a native of Ida Arkansas and began his economic development career in 1997 with the Arkansas Economic Development Commission as a community development consultant and later as a project manager where he worked to recruit companies to the state. Brad has served as president and CEO of the Conway Development Corporation or CDC, the city of Conway’s nonprofit economic development entities since 2000. In December of 2006, Brad became the president CEO of the Conway Area Chamber of Commerce. It marked the first time in nearly two decades at the chamber and CDC had been under the same leadership, the leadership of the same person. The combined management of both organizations brings the city larger staff to focus on economic development activities. In 2013. The Conway Area Chamber of Commerce was named chamber the year by ACCE and in 2018, was named runner up. Brad holds a bachelor’s degree in geography from the University of Central Arkansas, the Masters of Public Administration from the University of Arkansas Little Rock. He’s a graduate of the Community Development Institute at UCA, the Economic Development Institute at the University of Oklahoma and the US Chamber of Commerce Institute for organization management. Brad is a former member of the University of Central Arkansas Board of Trustees and has served two terms on the Board of Regents for the US Chamber West Institute of organization management. I’m excited to have Brad back with me on Chamber Chat Podcast, he was a guest way back in episode 103, where we talked about the way they go about their annual meeting. So if anybody wants to go back in the archive and check that out, it was a fantastic episode. But Brad, welcome back to Chamber Chat Podcast, go out and say hello to all the Chamber Champions and share something interesting about yourself so we can get to know you a little better.

Brad Lacy 4:01
Yeah, well, thanks for thanks for asking. I’m not sure I’m all that. Interesting. Maybe the most interesting things that I’ve been in the job over 20 years and have only been in one community that doesn’t seem to be very common these days in the chamber world. So that’s true. Yeah, maybe maybe that’s the interesting thing.

Brandon Burton 4:25
Good deal. Well, tell us maybe some background, this specs, if you will, on the Conway area, chamber size, location, budget, staff, that sort of thing, just to give us some perspective.

About the Conway Area Chamber

Brad Lacy 4:38
Yeah. So first, just a little on the city. So the city Conway is part of the Little Rock North Little Rock Conway MSA so we’re the Northern Gateway to the Little Rock MSA. The city has about 70,000 people. It is a little bit of several things. So it’s a College Town it has has three colleges and universities. A percentage of our population commutes into little rock to work every day. But most of our people stay here because it’s very much a business center too. So it’s not exactly a suburb, it’s not exactly a college town, it’s kind of a little of four or five things all mixed up, which makes us a little bit interesting. The Chamber itself has been around since 1891, and was formed to recruit the colleges here. So we’ve always had a real tied to the educational community here. And through the years, there have been a series of sister organizations that spin off from the chamber. So the other the biggest one being the CDC, as you mentioned in the intro, which is an economic development entity that spun off in 1959. And that was the that was the organization that initially hired me 23 years ago. And so today, what you have is really this collection of organizations that are tied through management agreements. And so the staff, which there’s a staff of 18, we manage, really, the assets and the work of those several organizations, budget is going to be anywhere from five to $7 million a year, which is a pretty big budget, especially for our community our size. But when you put all of those organizations together, that’s what that’s what it looks like. And on the economic development side, there’s a lot of property that’s involved. So land leases, building leases, land sales. And so that’s where a lot of that revenue comes from. But it’s an extremely diverse revenue stream, which is really by design and helps us sort of navigate changes in the economy or changes in one member, you know, leaving or whatever. So it’s pretty good model we think,

Brandon Burton 7:11
yeah. Sounds like from the wide scope of demographics even of what makes up Conway really creates a great personal identity as a as a community, it seems like for sure. And you mentioned 18 staff and I got to meet some of your staff at the Mako conference. And you’re surrounded by some great people so for sure you’ve got a good good people there around you. So that that always helps.

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Topic-Chamber of the Year Application Programs

So as we’re doing these chamber, the year finalist interviews, what I like to do is focus on the two programs that you submitted on your application for chamber the year. So maybe just from a high level what’s address what those two programs are and then we can go in a little bit deeper and have you share some of the more nitty gritty about each program.

Brad Lacy 10:07
Sure. So the first one is a visioning committee wide visioning process called Conway 2035. We do a community wide visioning process every decade. Well, not really decade if you’re looking at the census, but every 10 years, so we did well, I guess it is, it does line up with the census. So actually, 2010 was the first year that we did that it was extremely important for us as a community. Because it really marked the first time that any entity had asked the community at large what they wanted to see for the city. And what happens is you get some agreement from larger groups of people on where not only the chamber, but city government. various nonprofits should be focusing their time and energy. And we did a lot of really great things in that decade between 2010 and 2020. So, and there was sort of a mid, mid, mid like 2015, we we convened sort of a smaller group of people to do a little bit of a correction to the plan to see, you know, what have we accomplished, were there some things that we needed to change, based off of things that were happening in the in the country. So 2020 Mark, really the year that we were supposed to renew that. So we had gotten everything ready, we had pulled our steering committee together, and we’re getting ready to meet with them. And it was a week, really after everything closed down. So that first program was really how did we do that? How do you how do you do a city wide visioning process when you can’t convene people? Because we did, we did it and we finished it. So the second one is our festival so we have a very oddly named festival, Toad Suck days. That is, that’s the name of it,

Brandon Burton 12:20
set that head on with the name. So that is what is Toad Suck days.

Brad Lacy 12:25
So my my EVP, Jamie Gates says that no southern city that’s worth anything, doesn’t have a festival named after a food or an animal. And so ours is named after toads, believe it or not, it’s a it’s a festival that volunteers started 41 years ago. And it really turned into something big. And as is the case in many communities, when things outgrow volunteers, they give them to the chamber. times you may not want them. This was one that you know, ended up being really good. It’s a very iconic festival in Arkansas, with a funny name. But throughout the history of the festival, we’ve raised $2 million for primarily educational nonprofits in the city, and some community development. So the festival is really the conduit through which we do a lot of charitable giving. But it also helps pay, you know, helps pay the bills because 100 to 125,000 people come to the festival. And there’s a lot of revenue that comes from that. So

Brandon Burton 13:48
sorry, I was maybe let’s just go deeper right now and untold sick days. So as you go about the planning of it each year, as its annual festival, do you know which nonprofits you’re targeting to support as you go about beginning it? Is their target goals going into it? How do you go about your planning and in strategy of

Brad Lacy 14:12
it? So historically, the money was earmarked for college scholarships for County students who were choosing to go to one of the three schools in Conway. So historically, that’s where all the money went. Internally, we decided to take a different course probably 10 years ago, with the creation of the Arkansas scholarship lottery. Voters approved a lottery in Arkansas. All of the proceeds from that are going to scholarships. So really, if you want to go to college here, you’re gonna get you’re gonna get some help, for the most part, and we didn’t really think that maybe our money now needed to go to scholarships. So we started investing heavily in pre K. And STEM education for elementary school students. So there’s some various various programs that we put money into, that really hit on those, those topics. Now, we also do a decent amount of money for downtown Conway, because that’s where we have the festival. So believe it or not, not everyone’s a fan of us closing the heart of the city down for three days. So, so we, we buy about 20, to $25,000 worth of hanging baskets that go up in downtown after the festival and the city partners with us on that, and takes care of them through summer and fall. And so our downtown is sort of known for those, those hanging baskets. So, you know, we can do between probably, in a slow year, maybe 60,000, upwards to 80, or $90,000, in charitable giving directly from the festival. Now, the other thing that has happened through the years is we will sort of approve what we call sanctioned events that are allowed to use the festival name. And so this is where other nonprofits benefit. So the Kiwanis Club, for instance, has done a 5k 10k for years where they raise money. And that’s the Toad Suck 5k 10k. There’s a literacy organization that does the tour to Toad, which is bike race. So there’s all these, there’s all these other things that are happening, as well as we have nonprofits, that we have a certain number of vendor spots available for free to nonprofits, to help raise money. So the festival is really much bigger than just what it does for us. In the community loves it and region, really so.

Brandon Burton 17:12
So with the charitable giving, is that structured through a foundation or just directly through the chamber? How does that look?

Brad Lacy 17:21
So the festival itself is a 501 C three, organization that is wholly owned by the chamber. All right.

Brandon Burton 17:34
So I know, in particular, with your chamber, that your application, you had some unique challenges, around DedSec day should particularly during the, you know, the COVID, shutdowns and whatnot. So tell us about how you guys address that and how you navigated through still being able to do the good work that you did and bring community together when you come together? How did you approach that?

Brad Lacy 18:01
So and by March, when things shut down, and when you look at the way that we raise money. Most of our big sponsors were in place by that because the festival happens the first weekend of May. Okay, so we had all these commitments from corporate sponsors to, you know, be a part of the 2020 Festival, and then you figure out, well, we’re six weeks away from festival that we’re not going to have. So what do we do? And I think our first, you know, maybe our first inclination was that we’re just not going to do anything and then give the money back or not kill these people or whatever. Because I think like many people, we were just in a state of shock, right? I mean, like, you know, I was thinking, how are we going to survive this? You know, how do you how do you survive when at least part of your revenue comes from being able to convene people and you can’t compete with people? That’s a real problem. But what we what we decided was that we could pivot and we could do a series of things we could sort of deconstruct the festival and offer people experiences which in fact, they needed and wanted because after, you know, a few weeks, your your cabin fever sets in, and, and so we sort of deconstructed the festival and figured out that we could do some of the best parts of it. Regardless if we had a traditional festival, so we came up with some new things. So really, one of the first ones was an airplane parade where we partnered with the Pilots Association, that is here. in Conway, and we asked them if they would do an airplane parade throughout the city. And this was several weeks into the lockdown, and super safe, everybody can just stand out in their yard. We, you know, promoted it heavily, not only on social media, but our local newspaper promoted it. And I mean, there were 1000s of people in their yards. And we had dozens of planes that participated in we had planes that came in to participate, you know, some fighter jets did some formation type things. And so, you know, we had some sponsors attached to it. So we actually made some money off of that, that we needed at the time. And so that really, I think, gave us some confidence that we could, that we could do this festival in pieces. And so another one was, we did a Nature and Science drive thru. People were, you know, hungry to do stuff with their children. So we partnered with Arkansas Game and Fish Commission, the Little Rock zoo, the Museum of Discovery, and maybe a couple of others to do these big exhibits. We put them in the middle of one of the university campuses. And then

we internally called it the drive thru zoo, that you know, the rule was you couldn’t get out of your car, but you could certainly drive through and you could see the penguins from the Little Rock zoo, you could go past the giant aquariums that Game and Fish broad. You could drive through these exhibits. And once again, people were hungry for it. They wanted to do things with their children. And we were going to do that from like three to six. Well, by four o’clock, the queue was so long wrapping through the campus that we had to start turning people away, because it was going to take us two hours to get everyone through the queue and see things. So we really started started building some confidence that we could provide some things that the community and really the region needed, would allow us to monetize it so that we could survive. And then we turned to television to we started buying blocks of time on network TV and the Little Rock market. And so we did a virtual concert one night where we asked friends that had really Arkansas based performers to perform for us and do a virtual concert at a particular time on the CBS affiliate and another great success. And so we just, we put a lot of different things together. That late spring and summer. That became the festival,

Brandon Burton 23:08
isn’t it, that’s about how long of a span that is.

Brad Lacy 23:11
So that was probably over three months that we did all of those things. And then you get to 2021. And things have loosened up a bit. But we still weren’t quite ready to go. First. As I say, you know, we were the first week of May. I didn’t want to be the first festival to you know, go forward. So it was the 40th anniversary of the festival. And so we decided we would again deconstruct the festival and do 40 days of Toad Suck. And so we brought the airplane parade back, we brought the Nature and Science drive through back except at this point, you didn’t have to drive through you could walk through because things were different than they were a year before. And we actually did our first real concert in person in a venue. We brought country music artists, Jimmy Allen to town and did a concert on UCaaS campus. And really, I think there there were several things there. One, it allowed us to continue to do charitable giving, which I wouldn’t have thought we could do. It allowed us to survive. Because we always take us you know 100 I think about $135,000 is what we end up charging back as a management fee from the chamber. So if you lose that chunk of money,

Brandon Burton 24:44
yeah, that makes an impact. You’re cutting salaries

Brad Lacy 24:47
or you’re cutting positions you’re doing something so you know, we did not want to do that and we did not want to use reserves and we did not do any of those things. We managed to survive and and that and ever lay anyone off. And then also just, it means so much this is kind of interesting, but it means a lot to the community to do the festival. Children love it. I mean, it’s really built around kids. And so to not do it, and not sort of recognize the legacy of it just seemed to be, you know, a terrible idea. And we should at least do our best to keep it going until we can have it for real. And, you know, the good news is, we had it for real this year. And it was crazy. I mean, it’s the best year we’ve ever had, we were very blessed. We had perfect weather, which we almost never have a full weekend at perfect weather. But we did this time. And everything was just more, you know, more revenue, more shirt sales more this more that. So there was definitely pent up demand for it.

Brandon Burton 26:03
That is awesome. Well, let’s circle back for a few minutes on your on the Conway 2035, the visioning program there. It is understand similar kind of circumstances when you need to be convening people together. First of all, I was glad to hear you say that you guys are revisiting like you get your 10 year vision, but then you’re revisiting it at the halfway point and kind of taking a barometer of seeing where you’re going because politically, things change, right technology changes, community demographics change. So there’s a lot of lot of reasons to kind of check the temperature, if you will. But take us through that in the next couple of minutes of how the the visioning program came together.

Brad Lacy 26:50
So in a normal year, what you do is is, well, the really the first part of it didn’t really matter, because the the important. First component of this is, is pulling together a diverse steering committee that represents sort of as many aspects of the community as you can get. So not only race, ethnicity, gender, and age, but things like how long have they lived here, like we always try to have one person on the committee who’s moved here in the last year or two, because they certainly have a different perspective about Conway than someone who’s lived here their whole life. But we have one of those people who’ve lived here their whole life, because their perspective is important, too. So we had we’d spent a lot of time and we had, I think, a 13 person steering committee that was just a cross section of the community. And we were getting ready to convene them when the pandemic hit. And obviously, we didn’t, well, by early June, I think we decided to at least get them together in person, and let them make the call on whether or not we were going to try to go through with this thing. And so we took we took a ballroom at UCA and had the I mean, it was like Vladimir Putin trying to meet with 20 people when you see those pictures of him with all this distance between Yeah, yeah, you know, so imagine putting 30 people in a gigantic Ballroom in a in a square table, where we add, you know, I don’t know, 40 feet between people are so dumb, it was crazy. But it was the only thing we could think of that would really be safe. So you know, we all meet wear masks, we put them at this table. And we just said, Look, should we move forward with this? Should we not we’re going to do what you want us to do. And if you tell us to go, we’re going to figure out how to do this. And to have one every one of them said we have to do this, like this is the most important thing we can do. We cannot we do not need to stay focused on what’s happening. Now. We need to come out of this stronger as a community, we need to give people hope. We need to ask people questions about what they want on the other side of this. And so Absolutely, we need to we need to do this. So the next part of this is the same regardless if it had been pre or pre pandemic or pandemic and that is we do a survey tool, just really through Survey Monkey, where we asked people to look at a list of like 40 to 45 topics, things like job creation trails. police fire. Anything almost that you could think of is pretty exhaustive list about things that might be important in a in a community. And we simply ask each resident who wants to fill it out to checkmark all the things that they think are important that we should focus on. So if you want to check 40 boxes, you can if you want to check to you can well, then we asked of these, what are your top three priorities? And then do you want to participate in writing plan? And if so, pick one section that you would want to help, right. So if you go back to 2010, we had 1400 people that participated at that level when filling the survey out. This time, we had over 1800 people that participated. And of the 1800, we had a few 100 that said they wanted to participate in writing plan. So here’s where you’re, you know, here’s, here’s where you hit the nitty gritty, like, how do you pull those people together? Because normally,

you would have four or five in person meetings, I mean, what we would normally do is take every volunteer that wanted to write the plan, meet in an auditorium and go over I mean, here’s how we’re going to do this, you know, and then we’re dividing them up, and they have their first meeting, and then they set subsequent meetings for the next three months. And they really craft this plan. Well, obviously, we can’t do that. So what do we do? So we reached out to the Winthrop Rockefeller Institute, which is a partner of ours that is in the neighboring community, and they do strategic they help communities with strategic plans really all over the place. And we just said, Look, we don’t know how to do this. Now. We need we need professional facilitators, because obviously, we’re going to have to use Zoom. And so that’s what we did. We hired Winrock to do that for us, and had a series of zoom meetings that took the place of the in person meetings. And it worked. I mean, it was, it was bizarre, because you were, you know, you somebody would be in their bed on this busier,

Brandon Burton 32:28
because there’s a quiet place in the house, right? When you

Brad Lacy 32:31
always have them after work anyway, you’re always doing them, you know, six or seven, because that’s when people can meet. So you’re really getting this glimpse into people’s lives, you know, like someone’s cooking dinner and is, is talking about, you know, soccer park, or whatever. And so, so we did that throughout the remainder of 2020. And then they really put it all together for us. And then by April of 2021, we had a summit at their facility. They have a big meeting facility with hotel rooms and a restaurant and everything. And so we convened over 50 community leaders in April, and we were all still masks, I’ll never forget it. We still had masks on. And took that plan and kind of did the final what for on it. And then that steering committee ultimately put their blessing on it. And by the early fall of 2021, we had a community wide visioning plan again. And who would have thought I mean, who would have thought that that we can pull that together? It really sets the stage for all of us to do the work that we want to do. So now. We’re in the process of all the various economic development boards in our organization. Our boards have done kind of the dot exercise where they’ve gone through all of the goals and said this is what we should concentrate on. And so our FY our strategic plan comes directly from that. The city for instance, did a $35 million. One my I think it’s probably maybe $40 million community center with pickleball volleyball, indoor and outdoor aquatics and soccer Park proposal that went to voters in February. Well, that checks off more than half of the parks goals that were developed. So that went to voters in February and it passed with 80% of the vote. And so what we would tell people is working that process is the most important thing, because what happens in a lot of communities is, well, meaning people think that they know what everybody wants. And they just move forward with an idea. And then they end up getting hammered at the ballot box. And it’s not because the idea was bad. And it might not even be that people disagree with it, but you never asked them what they wanted,

Brandon Burton 35:32
right? Just is a huge, such a huge factor.

Brad Lacy 35:36
So with this, you know, 1800 people spoke. And it’s pretty clear what they want. Yeah. And so we’ll use that as a guide, you know, for the next several years,

Brandon Burton 35:50
when really to be able to get their input, when you’re in the midst of a pandemic, like that, I’m sure is what spurred so many more people to participate in the survey, because they had more opinions, because we’re fresh, and they you know, and they, I’m sure appreciated that you’re reaching out and asking for their opinion asking if they want to be involved with the process. So I think the timing, although it didn’t seem great, on the surface, probably couldn’t have been better to get that for sure. Feedback from your community.

Brad Lacy 36:17
Yep, for sure.

Brandon Burton 36:19
I think that transitions well into my next question for you is, how do you view the role of your chamber there in your community?

Brad Lacy 36:31
I think we are often the middle ground that people are looking for these days. You know, Conway is pretty purple town politically. There’s a section of it, that’s very blue, and there’s a section of it, that’s very red. And I think we tend to be this place where a lot of the different sides can come to agree on things. And so we do our best to stay there. I’ve never seen a liberal or conservative person who didn’t think that job creation was important, right? I’ve never seen a liberal or conservative person who didn’t think quality place and quality of life was important. So I think chambers have the opportunity to play this part of, of helping bring both ends to the middle. Now, the extremes you’re never going to bring, because they don’t want. They don’t want to come to the middle. But the reality is, I think most of us are not the extremes. And so I think what we do is we help remind the community as a whole. And you’ve seen this, I think with our annual meeting, the annual meeting is really about helping people remember what we can accomplish. When we work together, it’s helping people understand why we’re special, it’s seeing their friends and neighbors on screen who look different from each other, who think different from each other. But they’re still working toward this common goal of building a world class city in the middle of Arkansas. And so I think that that’s the role we play is, is just this middle ground. Let’s roll our sleeves up and get the work done. And stay out of the, you know, crappy stuff that seems to dominate the headlines

Brandon Burton 38:39
like that. And, you know, you mentioned where the the ultra conservative or liberal like they both can agree that job creations are important. And and it’s not the chambers are looking for topics to grasp on to that are not controversial. But it’s topics that matter. And that can move the needle in a community and both sides can see where you know, something like job creation, and that example can move the needle. And I think

Brad Lacy 39:04
if you do those things, well, if you have a history of doing those things, well, there are things that you can get into. So for instance, and I don’t think this should be controversial, but I think it is, you know, the DBI diversity, belonging, equity and inclusion. I mean, you heard us present on that. And that would that would be controversial for some people. But we felt very strongly that we need to plant a flag there. And, and we have and we did and have, did we take on a little bit of water with some people in the community? Yeah, probably. But for the majority. I don’t think so. I think that they want us to speak on things like that. Because if it’s important to the business community that it’s important to us.

Brandon Burton 40:04
Absolutely. So Brad, I wanted to ask you if there if you might have a tip or an action item for listeners to help take their organizations up to the next level?

Action Item/Tip for Chamber Champions

Brad Lacy 40:16
Well, I think being ambitious is the biggest one, the main expecting more. I think that that probably guides us more than anything is that we expect more from ourselves. And we always think that we can get better. And we compare ourselves to the best. Which is part of the reason you do things like chamber of the year, you need to compare yourself to the best people out there. And you’ll always learn something from that, you know,

Brandon Burton 40:50
even just a benchmarking survey itself, that whole process, yeah,

Brad Lacy 40:54
right. And we do that as a community really, like we compare ourselves to other cities that we think we can learn something from, and we do that in a really formal way. So I just think being ambitious is is big. I think it’s so easy to just get caught up in the day to day activities of of what you do, and you just lose sight of trying to have some vision and and be the force that helps push your community in that direction.

Brandon Burton 41:28
I like that answer. So I’d like for a so many of your responses just flow right into the next question. So good. I like asking, yeah, how do you see the future of chambers and their purpose going forward?

Future of Chambers

Brad Lacy 41:43
I think they’re incredibly important. And I think as important as they’ve ever been simply because of what I said before on this, this middle ground, that chambers should be able to be for people. Because of the interesting nature of our work, I mean, we represent the business community. Well, what the business community has to say, should be very important to whatever community they’re in, because if the business community disappears or go somewhere else, then you don’t have a community anymore. And, and so I don’t think that you have to be apologetic for having an opinion. If your membership is backing you up on it. I mean, that’s what you’re there for. However, I do think that the majority of things that we work on should be something that the majority of the people in your community can gravitate toward. You, you know, I’ve often said, in the 23 years that I’ve worked here, I have boards that have some of the most liberal and some of the most conservative people in the community on them. I have never in 23 years heard them argue or fight about national hot button political issues. I’ve never heard them talk about Barack Obama or Donald Trump or Joe Biden. I’ve never heard them talk about abortion, or any other all of the issues like I’ve never heard that. And the reality is, we don’t do that. That’s not what grows, the city of Conway, and so confer a common goal. That’s right. I mean, the stuff that we worked on is something that almost always, both sides can agree on. And and when you when you win together, it makes those harder times a little bit easier, because you end up knowing this person. And when you know somebody, even if they think differently than you. You can’t vilify them because you know, that you, you know, you’ve had lunch with them, you know, their families, you just you just think about the world a little bit differently. And so I really think chambers have this ability to can, again, it’s what we’re best at convening people, why we convene people better if we’re doing our job, we convene people better than any other group or organization in our community. And there is a power in that. There’s a responsibility in that. And so I think the future’s bright for chambers.

Brandon Burton 44:45
Absolutely. So Brad, this has been great having you back on the podcast. I’ve really enjoyed it. I wanted to give you an opportunity to put any contact information out there. So if anyone wanted to reach out and connect and learn more about how you’re doing things there and Conway, how should they have? Should they reach out and connect with you?

Connect with Brad Lacy

Brad Lacy 45:03
Sure, I mean, emails probably the easiest. And then if we want to move into a phone conversation or bring some other staff members in, we’d be happy to and that’s just brad@conwayarkansas.org in Arkansas spelled out completely.

Brandon Burton 45:18
That’s perfect. Now I’ll get it in the show notes for this episode as well. So people can go there and find it and shoot you an email and learn more about Toad sick days, you know? Absolutely. Well, Brad, I really do appreciate you coming on here with me and I wish you and the Conway area Chamber Best of luck, this chamber the air.

Brad Lacy 45:37
Thank you, we appreciate it.

Brandon Burton 45:38
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Bowling Green Area Chamber-ACCE Chamber of the Year Finalist with Ron Bunch

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Brandon Burton 0:00
This is the Chamber Chat Podcast, the show dedicated to chamber professionals to spark ideas and to get actionable tips and strategies to better serve your members and community.

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You’re joining us for our 2022 ACCE chamber the year finalist series. And our guest for this episode is Ron Bunch. Ron is here with us today representing the Bowling Green Area Chamber as their President and CEO in their bid for for chamber of the year. But Ron as he leads the Bowling Green Area Chamber they are a five star credited chamber, placing in the top 1% of all chambers in America. The Bowling Green Area Chamber has served the Bowling Green and Warren County area for more than 85 years. As the driving force for the business community in Bowling Green Warren County. The chamber also serves as the lead economic development organization for the region and is responsible for the South Central Kentucky Regional Economic Development Partnership. Since Ron joined the Bowling Green Area Chamber of Commerce, their community has announced over $6.1 billion in capital investment and more than 11,200 new jobs. Bowling Green has been ranked in the top six nationally by site selection magazine for the top 10 metros for new and expanding facilities for populations under 200,000 for nine consecutive years, including number one overall in 2018. The Bowling Green Area Chamber of Commerce has also won two consecutive Matt Conway awards from site selection magazine, which recognized the team as a top 20 economic development organization in the country for their performance in 2020 and 2021. Simultaneously, the Chamber has been invited to apply for chamber the year in the US by the by ACCE for five consecutive years and making it to the finalist stage for three of those years. Ron received the Kentucky Association for Economic Development’s 2014 James J. Coleman Community Economic professional of the year with nearly 30 years of professional economic development experience. Ron is a certified economic developer and his lead successful local and regional economic development efforts in Florida, Virginia and South Carolina before coming to Kentucky. Ron, welcome back to Chamber Chat Podcast. I’m excited to have you with us today, especially under these conditions is at chamber the year finalist. Again, that is a great feat. But take a moment to say hello to all the Chamber Champions out there listening and share something interesting about yourself so you can get to know you a little better.

Ron Bunch 4:44
Well, I really appreciate you having me back on again. Let’s see something interesting about me. I went to West Point and one of the training opportunities I had while at West Point was to go to Northern warfare training in Alaska. So I got to do front spiking for bass rescue and all that other stuff while we lived on the glacier for a week as well, too. So it was a really great experience. So probably not many people know that.

Brandon Burton 5:11
That is pretty interesting and quite the experience to so

Ron Bunch 5:16
that was some of the best training I’ve ever done. And it was, it was really great.

Brandon Burton 5:20
Yeah, that’s awesome. So I’ll share it. A fun fact, too, is that Ron was a guest of ours back on Episode 24, which was the actually the very first chamber of the year finalist interview that I did on the podcast. So he, he helped pilot this series, originally back in 2019. So if anybody wants to go back and check that out, I think encourage you probably not to because I probably wasn’t as good then. And it wasn’t as well refined. But I’m excited that’s

Ron Bunch 5:51
still going on, considering I was the first guest.

Brandon Burton 5:56
That’s right, and we’re up to episode 182. Now on this one, so we’ve come a long ways from there. But Ron, take a minute and tell us about the bowling green area Chamber just to give us some perspective of size, staff budget, scope of work, that sort of thing to kind of give us

About the Bowling Green Area Chamber

Ron Bunch 6:12
some perspective. Sure, in our chambers, around 1300 partners or members, our annual budgets around 2.4 million. We’ve got a staff of approximately 16 full time, folks, we’re changing it up a little bit. Right now we do have some virtual employees that were contracted with reasonably we try that out. But probably the most unique part is that we run six different companies. So there’s five additional companies beyond the chamber, chamber houses, all the employees, but we have multiple development companies, foundations, so multiple pieces that we operate with one common management team.

Brandon Burton 6:50
Right. So those additional companies, are they primarily focused around economic development? And are the foundations, I guess, give us give us a little more sampling what that looks like. Yeah,

Ron Bunch 7:01
it’s sort of a balance. You know, two of them are development companies. So one of the public development company that owns and operates the trans Park was a private nonprofit development company that developed the south Industrial Park and own some buildings. And it’s been the tool that we use to build speculative building. Another entity is a public entity that we use to facilitate incentives and bond issues. We’ve got 2501 C threes. One is our foundation that we’ve used to raise money for what started out as Leader in Me that’s evolved into SC K launch, which is our K 12, comprehensive talent initiative, we’ve raised and invested about 2.6 million at this point. After that, we have another entity that’s a training Consortium. So we seek out and bid and deliver on Demand training for different groups of companies through it. And then there’s the chain province.

Brandon Burton 7:59
Yeah, you guys know how to stay busy and make it work. So

Ron Bunch 8:02
there’s no shortage of more money. So if anybody’s looking for a board meeting in DC, come on down here. We’ll set you up with one. That’s right.

Brandon Burton 8:09
But to put you in a room, right. Well, as I say, chamber, the year finalist series rolls out, what I like to do is focus primarily on the two programs that you guys submitted as your program synopsis on the chamber that your application. So I look forward to diving into what those programs are learning more about the impact you guys are making in your community. As soon as we get back from this quick break.

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Topic-Chamber of the Year Application Programs

All right, Ron, we’re back. Why don’t you take us through what the two programs are that you guys submitted on your chamber the your application just first at a high level and then we’ll we’ll circle back and get into a little more

Ron Bunch 10:57
detail on each of them. Sure, the two different areas we highlight this time one is a follow on initiative in talent. So for the 11 plus years that I’ve been here, 10 plus of those 11 have been focused on talent. And what we build out with SDK launch our regional talent initiative that spans the K 12, system, city and county schools, as well as what we’ve done a public workforce. So one of those is minorities in engineering, and our goal there was to seek to engage more minorities in K 12, and help lead them to engineering occupations, and education through our university. And then the other initiative is in our role of managing, developing and growing the trans Park, which was a 900 acre business park when we got here. That initiative, we essentially added double the acreage in about a 24 month period. And then were able to win several different projects as a result of that, during the pandemic. So when not many people were investing in more product development, we were able to convince our city in Canada invest in that and it really produced a lot of dividend for

Brandon Burton 12:14
that is that is a pretty pretty large impact there on the growth of the transport Web. Say, let’s dive a little deeper into that one. How did you guys approach that? I know as we went into the pandemic, yeah, we all thought it was gonna be two weeks, right? A little longer, right?

Ron Bunch 12:35
In our programs, and

Brandon Burton 12:38
there’s a reflection there, right? So how did you guys go about kind of seeing through the mess of the pandemic and kind of seeing where the light is at the end of the tunnel and the need to continue building, especially in this trans Park area to be able to double the acreage and investment in that area? What was your selling points and to be able to have clarity through all that?

Ron Bunch 13:02
Now, let’s that’s awesome. The so obviously, we’ve been managing the trans park all along. And as you mentioned earlier, we’ve been very blessed to be nationally ranked and economic development for nine consecutive years now. And so we’ve built some success in the transport and developing that winning projects. In the even during the pandemic, we were able to win 20 different projects. And so we both saw an increase in activity and a reduction in available property. But we had been talking about growing the transport for some time. So what the the effects of the pandemic were that, you know, we saw more global companies. So when you look at global impact, we were talking with more global companies that were looking for available product so that they could change their supply chain. We also knew from a scarcity and abundance standpoint that those communities that had an abundant amount of property would be more successful, because we had a track record and working with companies successfully. And but we knew we had a scarcity both on utilities and property. And so when you look to the Horizon Report, I mean, those are two of the key factors in our analysis of the transport. So really a couple of things played into it, you know, one was attractive, we had a winning project. So we’ve had let’s see, prior to the recent wins about three of the top investments in Kentucky in a given year in the transparency and we have consistently performed so the Sydney county had confidence in us. And so we began a conversation with them about doubling their investment from around 25 million to 40 plus almost 50 million in the trans Park and they saw the wisdom in that during the pandemic. So they put together a bond issue issued $46 million in debt that allowed us to acquire almost 608 First, and that allowed us to win several projects. And then, as we were recording one of the major projects, we it turned out, we needed an additional 14 to 16 acres. So we went back to the city and the county, who went into reserves to then provide funds so that we could buy additional property this time about, I think it was close to 500 acres or so and all said and done in a 24 month period, we brought on 1100 acres, which is larger than the original trans Park. And we’ve now won several projects, including the Envision project, which is the state’s second largest investment in Kentucky history. So had we not had the advocacy and relationships with local government, have we not performed we would have never been able to make that case for them to invest in such a challenging time. And so like everybody, we were also dealing with the effects of the pandemic and reassuring business and clarifying things for business and evolving how we do business. But we felt it was very important to bring on this additional property. And we were very blessed that it turned out to be great, we were able to win a project with ball Corporation, which is a $300 million project. Tyson Foods, which was the largest job creation project up from that point. And then the Envision project is a $2 billion investment with 2000 jobs. It’ll build about 3 million square feet here for an easy project.

Brandon Burton 16:27
Wow. That is That is awesome. So did you already have some of this in motion before the pandemic hit kind of division that where you wanted to take the trans Park? Or did the pandemic really kind of accelerate the need to be able to move forward with this?

Ron Bunch 16:42
Yeah, we had some of the conversations already happening with the city in the county because the public entity we run has appointees from the city in the county, including the city manager and others. And so they were aware we needed to increase the size of transport, we hadn’t solidified how much. And so as we did that, and then as we began to court, some of the projects that started to respond, then we identify we need even more land than we originally thought. So just after the city, the county doubled their investment, which we they had not planned to do with the 46 million, we came back say oh, by the way, another 500 acres, but that acreage allowed us to win the Tyson project and Tyson announced with 455 employees, which at that time was our largest new job announcement ever in Warren County. So that was a very exciting project. But it was amazing. Because that additional property, we needed about 14 acres to make this light work, right. And we were able to secure another 500 or so acres, that if we had not had, we could not have even talked to the folks at Envision. And so we were very blessed to be able to work the Envision project. It was pretty unique and that that mega project, we ended up having to work directly with the legislature. So I met with the Senate and I met with the House leadership, they were under NDA. And between the governor and his team and the Cabinet for Economic Development and the legislature, we were able to put together a package that ultimately won the project. So I mean, tons of parties helped us to when we were just the quarterback on the team. But what a great project.

Brandon Burton 18:22
Yeah, and what a great investment for your community as well to be able to increase his number of jobs and increases the tax revenue base for the city and county to put the money in. It truly is an investment it’s going to pay back pretty quickly. It sounds like yeah, no,

Ron Bunch 18:37
I’m glad you share it like that. Because I mean, like like all of us experience. I mean, everyone that’s a chamber leader does all they can do to take care of their community. And that’s all we’ve ever done. And in this instance, you know, we had probably 3000 jobs already in the transit Park. So it was generating a really nice return on investment to the city and the county, very positive. We’ve had, you know, we’ve been very blessed with success annually for years. And this envision project with 2000 jobs, the economic impact of that is more than the cumulative transport before it. Wow. So it’s it’s really hard to wrap your head around some of the numbers that and so I really firmly believe that the city and the county having confidence in investing during the pandemic made a huge difference. But we’re also have really worked with our team on recruiting and in closing projects. We’ve been a leader in developing what we call a continuum of property so there’s always property in different stages ready for us to CT project. So there’s been a lot of foundation work that then allowed this investment by the Sydney can to pay such dividends so quickly and we also had a reputation with Site Location consultants. stuff of being on go to group, a group that delivers. And so all those things kind of came together. But

Brandon Burton 20:06
amazing. Yeah, that’s a great win. And I look forward to seeing that continued development and the stories that come out of that that investment. And we’ve got,

Ron Bunch 20:15
we’ve got about five other projects teed up in the next 60 days. So we’re pretty excited.

Brandon Burton 20:22
That’s awesome. No, no rest there at the chamber. No.

Ron Bunch 20:26
That’s the other thing that all my chamber peers know. I mean, the chase and the courtship and the announcement are all exciting. But that’s about 20% of the work. Now we’ve got the 80% of the work of, you know, building 60 $70 million worth of infrastructure, helping with permitting, helping with incentives, helping them find talent. So now the real work begins.

Brandon Burton 20:46
The work, right. I love that impact that you guys are having there with economic development. Let’s, let’s shift gears over to the first program that you talked about with around talent and the minorities in engineering and tell us more about how that program works. How you guys saw the need to focus there. And you know, who’s involved with that, that program to make it successful? Yeah,

Ron Bunch 21:12
thanks. So, um, maybe a little preamble again, just to tie it together. So, you know, for the last decade, here, we’ve focused on talent, and we built what’s called SDK launch. So SDK is a region. So it’s also the labor market, 10 County area. And a launch is learning about unique and new careers here. And so that facet, we run the demand projections every month, that then guides our work. It’s interesting, because the Envision project to tie those two things together is cited our investments and our relationships that were built in SCK launch. That’s one of the key reasons why they chose because talent is tight everywhere. They like the fact that we had a decade of investment, a decade of relationship building a decade of different tactics that built on that core framework. And so that was a big difference maker in our courtship with envision the $2 billion project, the 2000 jobs. But the minorities in engineering specifically, was an effort to get more minorities in our community, to the university and into career. And so in this instance, we had about 11 1200 engineers in occupations now in our economy. But as we ran that monthly projection, we could see that there were 900, plus engineering slots that were going to be available. And so we became aware that in schools, students really didn’t have visibility to the courses to take that lead to engineering. Nor was there really a poll to draw any students into engineering, but specifically minorities. And so one of the companies that we call on this here had two parents that were minority with a daughter that was in school, and they brought this topic to us. And you know, up until then, even though we’re so engaged, it’s because we didn’t realize that facet. And so we convened five different companies that were here who all excited to come to the table, we put together a cohort. And we’ve begun to align the pathways in the school that then both engage and set up a series of courses that one would take, that could lead in engineering, and then we took, I think, 60 or so students to the university had a variety of different speakers, I got to be there for a couple hours of it was pretty awesome, because you had successful engineers talking about the profession and talking about all the different places you can go with it. And you had these students engaging with everything from virtual reality to just seeing hands on equipment to do prototypes and stuff. But it was the students came away, just really very impressed with it. And so now our goal is to increase the number of students that can participate, and to really make much more transparent. The pathway, of course, as one would take in high school, and then work with a group of companies University and school leadership, develop the right marketing materials to engage parents and students to make sure they know about not just the careers and what they pay, but the companies that would employ them here because we are blessed to have you know about 18% manufacturing here. So quite a array of engineers needed and with the automation, robotics and AI that’s really taking place. There’s a higher demand for a very sophisticated engineering to support that.

Brandon Burton 24:41
I love you when you started telling about this program, kind of making that connection between the SC K long CK Central Kentucky Yeah. And how that ties in to specifically with envision and seeing, as you’re given that response, I’m thinking this is just, it’s not just a program that you guys do. But this is part of your chamber DNA to say, This is who we are, this is what we do. And it bleeds through here as you go about other projects. To see, the value is.

Ron Bunch 25:17
That’s great. I mean, because you know, we’re inside it. And so for you to see that is very honoring, very important. I appreciate that it is. So like, I had been an economic development leader in three states before this five other positions. And even when I got here, one of the things we discovered quickly was the need for talent. And so as we started running the data, we could see that there was going to be a shortfall in data in people through the data, the only thing that pandemic did was make a bad problem, much worse. And so the fact that we chose to invest strategically, you know, back to scarcity and abundance, we knew that talent was going to be scarce. But we also knew that because of that talent was going to be critically important to our companies growing. On top of everything else we’ve done, we spent quite a bit of time and money and so like, some of my peers would raise money for the operations. We raised money to invest in school that we’ve raised and invested 2.6, we’re getting ready to invest raising investment up to two and a half, that will help us build out actual operations and each of the schools so you can have like a hands on Academy. So right now we have a credit union school, we have two stores. So it is great. If you ever have a bad day, which happens from time to time, in shame world, we just go to the school and see the young people enjoying the fruits of our labor. And we’re like, Okay, this is what matters, what’s the deal, what, put our shoulder back to the grind on make it work.

Brandon Burton 26:51
That’s right. And I love how, whenever I hear of any chamber that’s showing what the opportunities are to the youth coming up in their community to say, there’s great jobs here. Here’s a sampling of what a career could look like, if you stay here in our community. So any anytime you can do that, and you guys are obviously focused on focusing on minorities, specifically in engineering, because there’s a need there, right. And so seeing where the need is and filling that void. So I think that’s a great focus, a great area focus.

Ron Bunch 27:25
And what’s interesting, I mean, you can see two, we built it for the right reason. And then even with that program, the Envision project we won, we had no idea the level of engineering they were going to require. And so it was great that we had already done that, because we could point to what we already done that what we might do what we couldn’t do, we could point to what we had done. And so they really love the overall program, because it is a k 12. But that wasn’t important to you, because there’s going to be quite a bit of engineering and technicians is a very highly automated process in 3 million square feet to produce electric batteries that they don’t produce.

Brandon Burton 28:05
That is That is awesome. I love seeing these intertwining of these these programs. Ron, I wanted to ask you as how do you see the role of the bowling green area Chamber in your community?

Ron Bunch 28:21
Yeah, the I hate to keep going back to Horizon Report. But really, we see our role under that catalytic leadership. I mean, it’s our job really to listen to the business community, and then advocate at whatever level with local government, state government, federal government, whoever we need to advocate with, or to bring groups together early to make sure our businesses have what they need, not just today, but going forward. And you know, I think you can see that what we’re doing with adding twice the acreage at the Trent Park, good thing. So for those not viewing lights just went up in the building. So sorry for the distraction, but you know, investing in the transport, doubling in size, investing, you know, millions of dollars in the K 12 talent development is that catalytic leadership. So we seek to fill roles of convening people and doing what the community is not just today but into the future.

Brandon Burton 29:20
I love that and it shows you know that it’s, as we look at these chamber, the year finalists, it’s those who’ve really embraced the Horizon Report and have kind of leaned into that as far as what the future is like in their community are the ones that are being recognized and, and staying ahead of the curve, as I would say it to see what those needs are in their community. So I couldn’t agree more. I like asking everyone I have on the show. If you might have a tip or an action item for chambers that are listening who are interested in taking their chamber up to the next level, what would you suggest

Action Item/Tip for Chamber Champions

Ron Bunch 30:04
One would be to take risks. No, it’s easy to play it safe. It’s easy to stay within the bounds of what you think the board might be accepting, or volunteers might be accepting. But you if you find the right initiatives and take those on, it will work. And so take risks would be one thing I would say, especially now, because things are changing so quickly, you’re going to have to do things that maybe you hadn’t considered before done. So that would be one thing I would say, is to take risks.

Brandon Burton 30:38
Absolutely, I see a lot of chambers don’t want to be the first one to do something, right, you want to look around and see see what other colleagues have done, how’s it worked out, let’s test the waters. But to be able to be bold and take those risks, it takes some guts, but it can pay off big time.

Ron Bunch 30:54
Yeah, I’m gonna hate to keep going back to it. But I mean, had we not invested in building the relationships have we not invested in what we’ve done both in K 12, and public workforce, we would not have won the projects that we won over the last couple years, especially. Because in that time, everyone everywhere had talent constraints, even when we talked with international companies in Japan, they have the same talent constraints. And so companies that are looking now are finding the same thing everywhere, what has helped us is we could point to a decade of investments a decade of building. And so those things made a difference for us. But it was a risk at the time to to allocate that much of our organization and to fundraise, but that versus operation of the risk is paid off.

Brandon Burton 31:44
Right. In hindsight, it made sense to focus on the future, especially with, you know, the baby boomers that would be retiring and the need for talent, but then to have that exacerbated by a worldwide pandemic, and early retirements and layoffs and all these different things. Those who were looking ahead and preparing were much better positioned to be able to weather that storm. As we look to the future of chambers, speaking of future, how do you see the future of chambers and their role going forward?

Future of Chambers

Ron Bunch 32:18
Now, I think the other thing that we have thought we had sort of dabbled in and called different things solution based selling, we finally settled on spin that Neil Rackham put out and, you know, the wrong but short version of that is to truly have a heart for the person or the business. To ask the questions, you need to ask to truly understand what their needs are and what they value. And then to seek to meet those needs and values that they have. We don’t want to be a donation, we want to provide a return on investment. So looking forward, I think, whatever you call it, whatever sales methodology you look at, I would say chambers truly having that conversation, and we set a goal, to focus on spin as our methodology, and to have a conversation with every chamber investor at least once a year, to really understand in the coming year, have your value systems changed, what do you need from us. And I think that helps us to stay relevant to stay connected. And the partners see that we’re truly interested in them. We’re not selling at them, hey, we need money for this new program or event. It’s Hey, we’re doing this because we heard from many of you that this is in demand. And they it’s paid off for us and new partners joining without even talking to sales staff retention has increased, I think we’re tracking about 89% retention, which is higher than it has been in the past. I think, while the results are still fairly early, because I want to get you know, three to five years under our belt. I think it is paying off that spending compensation. I think that’s the kind of thing that would help chambers going forward not be what we think is the thing, but do what research and conversations have told us the thing that companies need in the area

Brandon Burton 34:14
like that it does show your relevancy it shows your interest in each of those investor businesses. I’d be curious how you and maybe it’s not an answer for now, but maybe in three to five years of as you gather that feedback and what their needs are and how they’ve changed. How you avoid trying to be everything to everyone. Yeah, because you can’t accommodate every need that’s presented to you, but how do you try to group them together to see the end goal of what their needs are?

Ron Bunch 34:45
Well, you know, those things have already happened. So I mean, you know, an example of that would be SC k one, South Central Kentucky, our region again, one and that was a network. It’s an umbrella delivery from the different entrepreneurship organizations. So as we heard from that was very confusing SBDC SBA accelerator, I mean, who does what? And who do I need to talk to? So we pulled them all together and created that new brand. And now you can go to any of them, and they’ll get you to the right resource. But we, because of conversations We’ve convened, and so we don’t try to be everything to everyone we do the things that we do well, we partner with others on those things that need to exist for our businesses and make referrals to those other resources. But then we have a conversation with them about the quality of delivery that we’re looking for. So there’s a consistent kind of quality and even chamber interaction or chamber affiliate interaction.

Brandon Burton 35:41
Right, that goes back to the connector and convener role of the chamber. So absolutely. Ron, this has been a great conversation that I’ve enjoyed having you back with me on the podcast, as I like to give you an opportunity to share any contact information for listeners who’d like to reach out and learn more about how you guys are doing things and Bowling Green and maybe compete for some of these projects from you. The best way for them to reach out

Connect with Ron Bunch

Ron Bunch 36:06
well, my competitions. We just want a fair shot at it. All. Right. Yeah, so it’s Ron Bunch. So it’s ron@bgchamber.com is the email and our main lines p 270-781- 3200. So yeah, we would look for we posted multiple communities, we’ve had a lot of conversations, we love sharing things we’re doing because we want our whole country to be stronger. So anything we can do to be of assistance to our peers. We’re happy to do

Brandon Burton 36:36
absolutely. I’ll get that in the show notes for this episode. So anyone who’s walking the dog or driving the car can can look it up and reach out and connect that way but this has been a great discussion. I’m impressed with the work you guys are doing and truly making an impact there in the bowling green area. And wish you and your team best of luck with chamber the year.

Ron Bunch 36:56
Thank you sir appreciate appreciate what you’re doing to to share these best practices there, but I think it really helps get the word out for each chamber can be better for their community.

Brandon Burton 37:05
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Henry County Chamber-ACCE Chamber of the Year Finalist with Joe Henning

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Brandon Burton 0:00
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You’re joining us for another special episode in our 2022 ACCE Chamber the Year Finalist Series, and for this episode, we have Joe Henning with us. Joe is the President and CEO of the Henry County Chamber in Georgia. Joe has served as president and CEO of Henry County Chamber since 2019. Prior to that, he served 14 years as president and CEO of the aurora Regional Chamber in Illinois. Joe is a 2009 IOM graduate. He holds a Bachelor’s Degree in Public Relations and a master’s degree focusing on organizational development from Northern Illinois University, as well as a certificate and not for profit management from the University of Illinois at Chicago. He’s served as chair of the Midwest Board of Regents in 2012 and 2013. In 2017. He served as chair of the National Board of Trustees for the program and continues to serve as a faculty member. He’s taught on collaboration industry forecast, strong chambers for the future and marketing membership. In 2007. The Aurora chamber received its first accreditation through the US Chamber of Commerce with a four star distinction. In 2012 and 2017. Joe led the reaccreditation efforts and successfully achieved consecutive five star distinction. In 2015, the Chamber received chamber of the Year from the Illinois Association of Chamber of Commerce executives as well as the three star chamber of valor. In 2010, he received his accredited chamber executive credentials from the ice IACC II, and served as Chair of the board of directors in 2012 and 2012, he also successfully sat for and received his certified Association Executive designation from ASAE. In 2014, he was named chamber Executive of the Year by the Illinois Association of Chamber of Commerce executives. Joe completed the basic economic development course through Southern Illinois University Edwardsville in 2008. In 2013, he completed the economic development essential course through University of Oklahoma. He served on the advisory board for ACC EAS education and talent development division, and is a graduate of the US Chamber Foundation’s business leads fellowship program inaugural session. He served on workforce development boards Illinois and Georgia and was appointed by Illinois Governor Pat Quinn to serve on the Illinois 21st century Workforce Development Fund advisory committee in 2012. He supports and serves on the boards of a number of organizations that impact equity, inclusion, mental health, among others. His background includes business development, strategic planning and organizational development. If any of this sounds familiar to you, this is because we recently had Joe on chamber tap podcast back in episode 159, where we talked about some industry trends if you want to go back in the archives and check out that episode. It was a great one. But Joe, I’m excited to have you back with me on Chamber Chat Podcast, please say hello to all the Chamber Champions. And as usual, share something interesting about yourself so you can get to know you a little better.

Joe Henning 4:51
Brandon, it’s great to be back. It seems like just a few months ago, but it’s a pleasure to come back and especially with this topic. You know, I think And the interesting thing is that I think my mother is the only one that appreciates that entire bio. So if anybody else made it through it, thank you. You had mentioned the whole strategy and organizational development. And that really is my passion. And we did a couple years ago, here at Henry, we did the Clifton Strengths. And for my top five strengths were all around strategy. So I felt validated through this, this this process for timber the year really, really hits home in that strategy and organizational development process. So it’s a great opportunity to be a part of it. Yes. And

Brandon Burton 5:41
congratulations, of course, being selected as a chamber. They are finalists, great, great honors just in that and being selected.

Joe Henning 5:48
Absolutely. When I look at those peers out there in that in that category we’re in it’s it’s, it’s a tough, it’s a tough group to be in. Absolutely.

Brandon Burton 5:57
For sure. Well, tell us a little bit about the Henry County Chamber just to give us some idea, size and scope of work and staff budget, that sort of thing before we our discussion.

About the Henry County Chamber

Joe Henning 6:08
So we’re about a $1.5 million, maybe a little bit more than that. Budgets, we are comprised of both the Chamber of Commerce and the Convention and Visitor’s Bureau for Henry County. We’re located about a half hour south of Metro Atlanta, right along 75 So anybody traveling from the north down to Florida is going through Henry County. And we have for the chamber side we’re sitting at about 800 members and we have four full time employees on the chamber side and three full time employees on the CBD side

Brandon Burton 6:43
all right. That sounds good and that helps especially as we trying to release these episodes with the the appropriate categories and so consecutively so you fall right in line with with your your your companions in that in that category. But as we go through this discussion today the chamber the year finalist series what I like to do is really focus our discussion a lot on the the two programs synopsis you guys submitted on your chamber the your application, and we’ll dive into that discussion as soon as we get back from this quick break.

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Topic-Chamber of the Year Application Programs

Alright, Joe, we’re back. So what I’d like for you to do is just at a high level, tell us what the two programs are that you guys submitted on your application. And then we’ll circle back into some more detail on each of them.

Joe Henning 10:16
Sure, thank you. Our first synopsis was on advocacy and issues. And so the first one, we successfully advocated and passed two different tax referendums one in the spring one in the fall in 2021. And then the second synopsis was continuing our dei process along and working with our hospitality partners, from from hotels and accommodations to restaurant and retail, and addressing customer service and dei components within that.

Brandon Burton 10:52
Very good. That’s alright, I think I’d like to start with that one with the

Joe Henning 10:58
doesn’t everybody wants. Nobody wants to talk about ballot measures.

Brandon Burton 11:04
You’ve got a fair point there. So if we can take all of the time talking?

Joe Henning 11:10
No, that’s fine. I think, you know, for us, you know, we’re proud of the advocacy side, but this this. So back in 2019, right after I started here, the board passed a dei and inclusivity statement. And so as we were rolling into 2020, our program of work, we were looking at how we could advance inclusivity conversations with the pandemic and and the civil strife of 2020. There was a lot happening in Henry County, there was a lot happening in Georgia, and there was a lot happening throughout the country. And so we began some community dialogues, as we were still virtual. And wherever we could meet, we’d meet virtually fast forward to 2001. And we knew that we still had to do something, either virtual or hybrid, because we were still in the in the midst of the pandemic in early 2001. But we knew we had to take it another step. And so the CVB group, with the with the partner, relations manager that we had hired just at the end of 2019, began talking with our hoteliers, and other hospitality partners. And they wanted information training on customer service. And, if possible, what we could do around the DEI conversation. And so we, we really dug deep into that really looked at the needs. And we came out with a six part series, the first one on customer service, and then the last five different segments of inclusivity.

Brandon Burton 12:50
So what caught my, my ear when you mentioned what this, this program is about is a while back, I interviewed Doug Griffiths, who’s the author of 13 ways to kill your community. Yes, I know a lot of chamber professionals are familiar with that book. But towards the end of the podcast interview, I asked him about a tip or strategy for chambers and, and he had mentioned for chambers to train the employers in their community on customer service. I thought what a difference that would make you know, as people, you know, their first interaction in your community will often be at a hotel or some tourist destination, right? So what what made you guys land on that focus with hospitality, and then tying in the diversity and equity inclusion part? There

Joe Henning 13:39
were a couple of different factors there, Brandon. Right before I started in 2019, they just completed a an audience study, a segment study on the different tourists that come through Henry County, both planned to come through I just happen to stop, as I said, we’re right on 75. A lot of times people want to get through Atlanta on their way to Florida, and they’ll stop here around Henry County. And so that that study showed some some great positive pieces, but there were also some segments of, I guess, comfort. Not necessarily I don’t want to say safety, because I don’t want it to sound, you know, so so far off. But a little discomfort on whether or not they would be accepted. Okay, in the community. And I think and I think for the most part, they’re the it’s a great issue throughout the country, you know, where you can go and feel comfortable. The second part was just were asked. So, Atlanta motor speedway is is is right here in Henry County. And so we’re fortunate the last few years that we get to NASCAR races each year so hundreds of 1000s of people are traveling through here for different reasons and stopping and so we want to make sure that But whereas as inclusive as we can possibly be. And so we also, you know, taking that into account for the customer service side, looking at some of the demographics of who, who were part of the study, as well as who make up residence of Henry County now, we looked at some of the different diversity issues and components that we could look at, and looked at the impact the economic impacts that each of those demographics has on Henry County. So that’s where we fell into this six part series.

Brandon Burton 15:36
So as you kind of go through the six part series, what does that look like? How does it roll out? How does how do you incorporate it? Well,

Joe Henning 15:45
they’re primarily available out there online, through registration, they’re free to all of our hospitality partners, if they’re in, you know, the hotels, restaurant, retail, or our attractions. And we’ve had a great deal of interest from non hospitality businesses. And so we’re trying to figure out, you know, how to scale it up, that will be our big piece for that. But the first section is culture of customer service. And it is led by one of our local coffee proprietors, coffee shop proprietors here in Henry County, and very outgoing personality, very wonderful to work with. And so I believe that’s about a 45 minute video. And then there is a 10 question test if they take it, if they’re taking it remotely. But we are also able to now offer it in person. So if, you know, the manager or owner wants to do all at once we can do a small group facilitation of the program and have conversation around that. That’s step one, the other five sections, they don’t have to be, they don’t have to follow the first one on customer service, they can flip flop depending on what they are comfortable with. But the fifth one is the five part series is very exciting. It includes looking at the target visitor audiences of African American customers, Asian customers, Latino, Hispanic customers, LGBTQ customers, and the one that’s often overlooked is those with different abilities. We’ve got some attractions that are wonderful attractions, but they might have gravel driveways, or they might not have, they might have stairs and not a ramp. And so we’re trying to help many of our attractions and even our businesses to be more accommodating to that demographic as well. So those are the those are the six segments within that series.

Brandon Burton 17:43
Yeah, that sounds great. Yeah. And then the different abilities is it, it’s a big one, there’s a family that I’m really close to, they have two sons that are they’re in their late 20s Now, but they’re both wheelchair bound, and, you know, they’re very limited on even a restaurant that they can go to, the parents have to go ahead of time and kind of scope it out and see if the wheelchairs can fit through. And it’s just, it’s a lot of effort for them to get out. And the more businesses that can be aware of that and be accommodating, really welcomes people to your community. You know,

Joe Henning 18:14
it’s a, it’s a great point, because, you know, they also have a great spending capacity. And if we’re limiting them to two restaurants, and maybe one or two attractions, that that discretionary, that’s going to that, that small pot, I mean, they’re making out well, but but we’re sitting here, you know, like I said, we’ve got, we’ve got some great agriculture tourism pieces around here. But based, you know, based on their nature, it’s very difficult for wheelchair bound individuals to navigate and even even, you know, even if you’re just on a crutch, we also have the beautiful Panola mountain trip bikes and trails and that and so, you know, the, the accessibility there is limited. And so I think the more we can raise awareness, you know, the more we can make the entire county accommodating. And, you know, it just reminds me that, you know, all of the difference, you know, areas of, of the diversity, this is the one that I might not be in today, but boy, tomorrow, I might fall into that diversity category of different abilities. And I can change overnight for any of us.

Brandon Burton 19:30
Very true. Yep. And I like the idea that you have these these courses, these trainings online. And ideally, I mean, I see a company adopting that as an onboarding process for new employees and, and get their existing employees up to speed as well. So I think that’s a great way as a chamber to be leading the way in that effort.

Joe Henning 19:52
Thank you. Thank you.

Brandon Burton 19:54
So let’s, let’s switch gears over to the really exciting topic. Right admin issues. And we say that

Joe Henning 20:04
we will now

Brandon Burton 20:06
can we both understand the importance of it right. And chambers need to take that lead. So talk to us about the the two tax reforms and how this came about and how you went about doing that.

Joe Henning 20:17
So in Georgia, it’s they’ve got they’ve got legislation that’s just over a decade old, I guess, a little bit more than that. But but it allows you to take referendum back to the county residents and increase a penny, or add a penny tax in there for special purposes. And so the county in 2019, the county successfully repast is a five year limitation. So after five years, you have to ask again, we successfully passed the I believe it was the sixth, fifth, fifth or sixth class blas special purple, special purpose local option sales tax. In addition, the school districts can also pass a request as floss and those are East floss education spots. And so that came up in March. And I believe this was their sixth, and to be used for accommodations in schools, expanding some of the schools due to the demographic growth and population growth that we’re seeing here and some additional school busing, things like that. You know, we all know it’s tough, it’s tough to pass tax referendum. You know, we, you do it, you do it, because you are looking out for your community. If you’re going to be a catalytic leader, sometimes you got to make those tough decisions. And those tough take on those tough roles, and advocate for something that may not be popular. And so we, we worked with the school districts committee to get that passed in the in the spring, it passed, I believe, the kind of two to one margin. And so we were happy with that. We’ve already begun the process of what some of those project lists were on the on the east blast side. Henry County, then fast forward to the fall, Henry County had never had a transportation SPLOST. And so they were looking to do that in the fall, we had agreements with the four municipalities in Henry County, so we can go for the full Penny, it would be a five year commitment. So we took the lead and partner collaborated with Georgia transportation Alliance and a few others to help get the word out and get that passed successfully. In the fall. It was a that was probably the most tough of the three referendum that I’ve that I’ve worked on at the chamber here. Because it was new, it was an additional party, the others were renewing of the penny. And so those were a lot of the conversations. But one of the biggest, what I when I first started here, back in 2019, one of the biggest problems that I noticed and when I asked around to business leaders and employees and just community members, you know, what is our biggest issue, it’s transportation, there’s, there’s a lot of difficulty, we’re fortunate that we have the visitors traveling through on 75 and stopping to, you know, stopping at gas stations and restaurants and hotels. And we’re fortunate that we have some great warehouse and advanced manufacturing members located here in Henry County, but that also adds to additional traffic congestion that we have. And so our, our conversation with with our voters was simply that, you know, we have to get this done, we have to fix the transportation problem, it’s not going to get better if we don’t, it’s only going to get worse with the more cars the more people that we have in the county, and the more businesses you know, it’s a win win. And, and so that we passed, I believe that might have been the two to one and I think education was three to one and passage. So we were very happy, very, very fortunate with that. And so we’ve begun looking at what those projects were listed, but now we’re looking at, you know, how we’re going to roll out the conversation around that. So yeah, that that was the excitement of 2021 For me it was getting to tax refering the past

Brandon Burton 24:29
and I can see when you’re uh, you know, a school district, for example, to be able to focus on that the education tax reform, right and push that messaging out, but as a chamber when you’re looking at, you know, three different tax reforms, you’re trying to approach and tackle and show the benefits and educate voters and, you know, encourage voters to get out and participate in the process. I mean, it’s a it’s a heavy lift to take on all three of those. Did you guys hold forums or how did you go about educating the public?

Joe Henning 24:57
We did online forums. We did some Direct Mail, we did a lot through social media, kind of rolling with, you know, people, we’re still very, very much focused on, on social media in that as we were writing it through the pandemic, and that so we really relied heavily on that. You know, you’re right bread, talking about the kids and talking about the future. And it’s kind of hard to say no to little kids face. But you know, when you’re asking everybody to add a penny to every dollar that they spend, it doesn’t sound like a lot, but it can add up. And I think part of our messaging for both, and this is this is one that we’ve we started in in 19. With the regular spouse was, we’re fortunate with the amount of visitors we have to Henry County, not just tourists, but you know, people working here in Henry County that live elsewhere, and will be stopping for gas or stopping for food on their way home. And so really, you know, we’re paying about, we estimate, somewhere around half of the collections will come from Henry County residents, the other half will come from visitors from outside of Henry County is kind of our projection. And so, you know, we’re really asking others to help us pay those bills. And so that was the communications bullet points that we kind of went with was, you know, if not, if we don’t do this, we might get stuck with, you know, Henry County residents alone being asked to pay for the burden. So all right,

Brandon Burton 26:29
and I see that, you know, where you have other people helping to pay the bill, as you said, and and having everybody have some skin in the game, rather than, you know, just an increase in property tax. But exactly, exactly. Yeah. So it could be a good good solution for absolutely needs, especially when you have the like you said, people coming in that don’t live there. And so I wanted to ask you as as the chamber, the year finalist, I kind of look to you guys to all these finalists as those that are kind of setting the benchmark for other chambers right. Now, how do you view the role of the Henry County Chamber there in your community?

Joe Henning 27:15
You don’t I think in looking at the two programs that we we submitted this year. And looking over the past three years, I would say, you know, we’re convener. We like any chamber, we know we have limited resources from staff to time to financial. And so we really want to convene those leaders that can help us get something done. And in the case of this floss, we worked together and collaborated with the government with the Board of Ed with other organizations that had messaging that they could use that we could, you know, kind of that win win win win. All around. And so what, you know, We’ve convened that group to get that done. In the case of the the diversity for hospitality sections, you know, we convene the hospitality groups together, the different entities that make that up and work with work with them in partnership to provide these services, these trainings that they’re looking for. And I think, you know, the key to both of those, you know, in any success that we’ve seen here in Henry County, it’s just really looking at that need. We can, we could have put together a program on customer service, or any number of the programs that we’ve done in the past year, but if we don’t engage the targeted audiences that we want to work with on that, we don’t know, you know, we think we think we know what they want, or what they need, but we don’t and I think that’s part of that conversation and bringing them together with us and, and finding out really what the details are of how we can support them. And so that’s kind of where I feel that we fit in the game. No, I

Brandon Burton 29:05
think that makes perfect sense. So I’d like asking the question, I know I asked you this question. Last time I had you on the show, and I’m not going to hold you to your previous answer at all, but I was gonna see if you have any tip or action item for Chamber Champions that are listening who’d like to take their chamber up to the next level, what might you offer to them?

Action Item/Tip for Chamber Champions

Joe Henning 29:29
You know, I think both ACC II under their chamber of the year page and I believe the US Chamber is coming out with their their latest announcement of accredited chambers. Under their accreditation section, they have some best practices. You know, for people looking at where to begin with policies or or budgeting or even the advocacy side of it. You can find a lot of resources there. There’s There’s a huge wealthy library at ACC as well that you can just kind of search in there for topics that you might be looking for support. I think I think the key is, realize you’re not in this alone. You know, it’s I just got back from Madison last week and was teaching up there for the Midwest site for Institute for organization management. And there was, every and I love going back every year, there’s always that aha moment where you are the only chamber executive in your community. For the most part, I there’s, there might be some communities that have to but but for the most part, we’re sitting here alone, and it can feel lonely. But realize that you’ve got a great peer network of what nearly 7000 chambers of commerce around the United States and Canada, there are plenty of people out there that you can rely on. And so admit that you don’t have to do it alone, and that you’ve got people out there that want to help you succeed. And mate might have already gone through the the difficulty that you’re trying to fix, and help in your community. So there’s resources there. You know, I think that, you know, if they reached out to you, Brandon, I think any of us that have been been available, and you’ve so graciously allowed us to share our thoughts and our work. You know, I think if people reached out to us, we’d be willing to help, too. And so I think, just realize you’re not alone in this?

Brandon Burton 31:28
Absolutely. I think that’s a great piece of advice. And there is so much you can learn from others and not have to go through those growing pains yourself. Absolutely. Absolutely. Well, as we look to the future of chambers, how do you see the future of chambers of commerce and their purpose going forward?

Future of Chambers

Joe Henning 31:45
You know, I think I think 2020 2021 taught a lot of us that there was a need for refresh. And it allowed us to make some of those changes that we thought we needed to make, you know, everybody, for the most part, everybody went virtual. And so I think that allowed time for redesigning some of the different things that we were working on. And so I think that that flexibility, that adaptability is going to be the strength for the successful chambers going forward. And to be able to make those changes as they need to as their community needs are changing. And that’s the other piece is that chamber, professionals need to be very engaged with their community, because, you know, things can change in a minute, and what the needs might be, and we’ve seen some great catalytic chambers, you know, in Bowling Green this last year in Edwardsville, Illinois this past year, where tornadoes have gone through, and they’ve stepped up, and they’ve been the leaders within their communities, to help facilitate both the employers and the residents. And so I think being responsive to the community is really where our success is going to lie.

Brandon Burton 33:19
Like that being responsive and flexible and adaptive. And I think there’s probably more changes, you know, oh, yeah, up here in the next year to the suspects. Yeah. So be ready for it, you know, be ready to be flexible. And and I would say I would urge you to be forward looking and see where those trends are going, see where those business trends are, and educate yourself on those things. So you’re not caught off guard when they can?

Joe Henning 33:48
Absolutely, you know, I think we all have resources from ACCE, and ASAE. But we all have our state or regional associations that can provide us additional training, insight and information. And, you know, I think, you know, I know sometimes some budget budgets might not allow for the national groups. If you can swing it, I definitely encourage that. But if nothing else, I, you know, I implore chamber professionals to have membership in their state associations, because that is a great deal of resourceful information that’s available to them, but it’s also a great network. Absolutely.

Brandon Burton 34:31
But Joseph, we wrap up here, I wanted to give you an opportunity to share any contact information for Chamber Champions who want to reach out and connect with you and learn more about how you guys are doing things that Henry County Chamber what would be the best way for them to reach out and connect.

Connect with Joe Henning

Joe Henning 34:45
I appreciate that, Brandon. Yeah, I think if anybody wants to connect with me or my team here to get more information on any of that or any other things we’re doing, HenryCounty.com is the website that includes all of our email information as well as our phone numbers. And otherwise, we’re also on Facebook and LinkedIn. And I don’t know, several other social media platforms that are just beyond me. But I know definitely Facebook, we respond to message direct messages there quickly. And then on LinkedIn.

Brandon Burton 35:19
That’s perfect. And I’ll I’ll put links to those in the show notes for this episode. But, Joe, this has been great having you back on Chamber Chat Podcast, I joked with you, before we got on the recording that it’s always reaffirming to me to have a past guest be selected as a finalist for chamber of the year. So

Joe Henning 35:39
it feels good to be back. It feels good to have the recognition. I think, you know, it really to me, it’s not so much the, you know, it’s not me, it’s my team. And it’s my leadership volunteers that, you know, guide us through this, with the governance in that but from, you know, you asked about the future of chambers, and I think if we’re if we’re not looking at opportunities to improve our organizations, that’s where we’re not going to see them in 10 years, there’s either going to be somebody else, they’re taking up their space, or, you know, worse.

Brandon Burton 36:10
So, yeah, absolutely. Well, Joe, this has been a fun conversation. And, again, grateful to have you back with me on the podcast here and wish you guys best of luck in this chamber the year.

Joe Henning 36:23
Thank you, Brandon. I hope to be back soon to see you again. We’ll figure out another reason for you to come back. That’s right.

Brandon Burton 36:28
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West Des Moines Chamber-ACCE Chamber of the Year Finalist with Katherine Harrington

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Introduction

Brandon Burton 0:00
This is the Chamber Chat Podcast, the show dedicated to chamber professionals to spark ideas and to get actionable tips and strategies to better serve your members and community.

And now, your host, he can’t stand the sound of an art board being folded. Here’s my dad Brandon Burton. Hello Chamber Champions. Welcome to the Chamber Chat Podcast. I’m your host Brandon Burton, and it’s my goal to introduce you to people and ideas to better help you serve your Chamber members and your community.

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You’re joining us for a special episode in our 2022 ACC chamber the year finalist series and our guest for this episode is Katherine Harrington. Katherine is a ballerina turned executive as and as the President and CEO of the West Des Moines chamber in Iowa over the last two years in this role, she created an avid fan base and several new programs including the International black and brown Business Summit, the DEI Workplace Excellence Awards, Best of the West awards, Raccoon River rally, Fall Festival, W DM newsletter and more. Katherine has an extensive background in public speaking media sales, revenue stream creation, event development and leadership with organizations including US magazine and New York City, Crain’s Chicago Business San Diego Business Journal DSM magazine and the Des Moines business record. She also bootstrapped and ran her own glassy technology magazine events and digital news organization serving leaders in the booming tech and internet industries in San Diego called the tea sector at the Des Moines business record, she was Director of Innovation was the number one sales producer and started the lucrative innovation Iowa magazine, weekly news and a yearly awards event. Katherine has a passion for helping others and is on the board for several local organizations and foundations. Her early ballet career led to her Interlochen Arts Academy full time at the at 1415 Pacific Northwest Ballet School and Corniche Institute of Allied Arts and San Francisco Ballet School at 16 Tulsa Ballet Theatre at 17 and scholarship with Alvin Ailey American Dance Theater at 18 in New York City, it was in New York that Arthur Mitchell of Dance Theatre of Harlem said Katherine Harrington dances with her heart and you can see love coming out of her pores. Katherine received the W dem chamber MLK Jr. Community Organization Leadership Award as a winner of the great outdoor foundation and most valuable Philanthropist Award. finalist for the inspiring women of Iowa award was voted one of the most likeable by CityView magazine. Katherine has three successful children. Allie who’s a lawyer with Mayor Brown in Chicago. Nick is a real estate executive with compass and a real estate investor in Milwaukee. And Caitlin is a leader in supply chain at Target in Minneapolis. She’s married to Craig Walter, his biology and chemistry teacher at Valley High School. Katherine and her two daughters also started a widely claimed podcast in 2022 called what the fam you can listen to them on Apple podcasts or anywhere you get your podcasts. But Katherine, I’m excited to have you with me today on Chamber Chat Podcast. Congratulations for being selected as a chamber of the year finalist. I’d love for you to take a moment to say hello to all the Chamber Champions and share something else interesting about yourself so you can get to know you a little better.

Katherine Harrington 4:59
Now Have allbranded I just first of all, thank you for doing this, thank you for hosting this really important venue to help share for others to grow and build their chambers and their communities. So this is great, what a great service you have just kudos to you for for ID ating. And doing this and putting it together and, and making it happen. Wow, you read my whole entire bio, so I’m a little embarrassed. So Wow. And it’s kind of fun to you know, it’s Gosh, I’ve done a lot in my years. I didn’t realize they’re gonna read the whole bio, but, but I don’t think I have any more thing.

Brandon Burton 5:37
I was gonna trim it up as I went through. There’s a lot of good stuff here.

Katherine Harrington 5:42
Embarrassed Oh, my gosh. But I don’t like to talk so much about me. I like to talk about others. So I’m a little blushing right here. But for that intro,

Brandon Burton 5:54
from? Well, why don’t you instead of focusing on yourself, tell us a little bit more about the West Des Moines chamber so we can get a better idea of the type of chamber you are the size, staff budget, the scope of work that you do, and that sort of thing to kind of set the tone for our discussion.

About the West Des Moines Chamber

Katherine Harrington 6:12
Yeah, well, that’s a topic I can talk all day and night on. So absolutely. I actually started this role on April Fool’s Day of 2020. So and I had had no prior chamber experience at all. So this is a new world for me. But I’m a big idea person, I love to build ideas. I can’t stop that idea brain. It is constantly going and growing.

Brandon Burton 6:40
Kind of a blessing and a curse at the same time isn’t

Katherine Harrington 6:43
exactly it. You’re right, Brandon, like if you love ideas, and if you love to see them grow and nurture and help others chamber life is for you. But you’re right. It’s a blessing and a curse, you have to understand what you can do, what capacity you and your team have, and what you can maybe scrap or or say, well, we’ll do that in five years. Right? So it’s just hard to say no to all the cool things that that we can do. But the chamber, West Des Moines Chamber of Commerce, we will be 100 years old in 2024. So that’s pretty impressive. We’ve been around for a very long time. So it was certainly a I’m on the shoulder of giants, as they say when I joined a couple years ago. So it, it’s been a wonderful experience. The pandemic was right during that time as well. So I remember our former president training me and she said, Katherine, I think this pandemic is just going to last for about a week or so. And then I think we’re going to we’re gonna be through it at you know, and here we are, right. So I was I was, I loved her positivity. But you know, the facts bore out that it was much longer. But it was actually a really beautiful time to look at everything we were doing and understand, you know, how can we serve our community during this amazingly challenging time for humans and neighbors and our businesses? And, you know, what do they need. So, honestly, it was a gift to start during this really challenging time. Because we first of all, we had just one team member left, we have six team members, we’re hiring another team member, we’re growing. And we started with just one team member. So it was kind of nice, I could hire our own staff and build our own culture. We are huge culture advocates, we feel like that extends to not just the chamber, but to our city into our businesses. We’re trying to create the best culture in America, in our city. So it was really neat to onboard people that have the same loving acumen to help others. But we have 711 members and around almost 100 years. So now we’re gonna have seven team members and we really have a separate division which is our workforce division which is kind of unusual for some chambers so so that’s a little bit a little bit about

Brandon Burton 9:18
us. Yeah, that that will help as we get into our topic today is a chamber the year finalists but I what I like to do is focus the majority of our discussion on the the two programs you guys submitted on your chamber your application, and we’ll get into that discussion as soon as we get back from this quick break.

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Topic-Chamber of the Year Application Programs

All right, Katherine, we’re back. So as I mentioned before, will will highlight the two programs synopsis on your chamber, the your application, if you would just talk to us a little bit at a high level what the two programs are, and then we’ll circle back into some more detail on each of them.

Katherine Harrington 12:01
Yeah, so one is we started a black and brown Business Summit. And this was really the motivation because of the murder of George Floyd and the uprising in our city as well as around the world. And we want our city to be the most welcoming city in the world. And how do we do that? So we are all about making big noise for our city, because it helps spotlight who we are, you know, we’re not, we’re not on a beach. We’re not on an ocean. We’re not on a mountain. So we have to think really unusual. And think big if we’re going to make some noise for our city. So we started through really a community saying how can we support black and brown businesses and see them grow and nurture and become billionaires? Not just, you know, 1000 air but a billionaire? So the Athene, it’s now called the Athene black and brown Business Summit, it is something that we’ve had 23 countries, people in 23 countries view we telecast it. So it’s it’s a hybrid event, but it’s extensive. So that’s, that’s number one. Okay, we love that event. And then our second program that we’re spotlighting is our 15th year, the Western Moines Leadership Academy, and it grows and builds every year, with leaders all ages, all companies that, that join that we have a pretty rigorous application process, but we have to narrowed it down which is hard to 33 people in the region. And it’s a little different than most leadership academies, but but those are our two that we highlighted in the application.

Brandon Burton 13:51
Very good. So let’s circle back to the first one, the Black and Brown Business Summit. As you launch that business summit, how did you structure it? How did you get the word out? How did you build up the hype for this? Building upon the the emotion really, that was going throughout the country?

Katherine Harrington 14:11
Yeah, it takes a team. It takes a community to support that. So our team, we started a dei committee, and that’s led by now our board chair Angela Jackson, and she’s an entrepreneur, small business owner, and she’s also in charge of the EI one of our largest employers here called a theme. And we created our dei Committee, which helped to start and grow that black and brown Business Summit. So that then spun into six different committees. So we have a lot of community members near 200 volunteers that help to support that event. Because that event is a is a two day conference, but within it are many smaller events all very meaningful To help build and grow and inspire the Black and Brown business community, so part of it is a pitch competition the first day, we have a pitch competition. First year, we gave out $10,000 to the winners. And this year, we gave out $42,000 to the winners, wow. So a lot of a lot of money, cash. And that’s all raised through sponsorship through sponsorships, and we do well with sponsorships, people want to be aligned with this brand, they want to be aligned, and they want to help these businesses grow. So it’s really a great forum to provide that connection for those sponsors. But so that’s day one, there’s lots of programming, education, learning, practicing your pitch, we bring in experts from around the world, to help these people, you know, figure out what is their pitch, and then on the main stage, they do their pitch on day one. And then day two is, oh, my gosh, lots and lots of sessions and breakouts with everything. You name it, like social media, how, you know, how do you run your social media marketing, branding, Bitcoin, you know, just different things. We’re trying to be on the cutting edge of knowledge for these folks to help them really achieve success. And then we have a keynote, we had Daymond John of ABC Shark Tank Shark Tank was our keynote this year. But it is a sincere pleasure. We also have a fundraising component to the summit and we fundraise for nonprofit organizations at the same time that support black and brown businesses. So so that’s pretty neat, too. And every year that that changes. So there’s a lot involved in all of this programming.

Brandon Burton 16:45
That is awesome. That is every follow up question I had for you, you are hitting right after

Katherine Harrington 16:52
I need to practice for the big interview, right?

Brandon Burton 16:54
That’s right, you’re covering all the great points. So I love the idea that pitch competition, and then having those breakout sessions and trainings really to how to be more effective and future thinking about your business. I think you’d mentioned Bitcoin. And I think that there’s, you know, in the crypto world and NF Ts and Bitcoin, like that’s going to be a big part of the future of business. And chambers and businesses alike need to get on board and realize what that impact can be. And you’re not holding back any punches with your keynote speakers either. John is awesome. Yeah,

Katherine Harrington 17:31
yeah. We, it’s neat. It’ll be fun to see where we go with our keynote this year. So yeah, yeah, fingers. Yeah.

Brandon Burton 17:39
Well, let’s, let’s shift gears, then over to the West Des Moines Leadership Academy, and talk to us about what that entails. And maybe what sets it apart from other leadership classes that other chambers might put on. Yeah,

Katherine Harrington 17:54
it’s really, really interesting what we do there some leadership academies, you learn more about the city, you might learn more about, like how the police is run, or how, you know, planning and zoning is run or city council, things like that. But we take the Leadership Academy, we kind of put it on its side a little bit. And we go deep into the humanity of you as a leader. What makes a good leader? And and that’s a complicated answer. And that’s multifaceted. So we have experts that come in are experts in their field, to really try to help those leaders know who they are, first of all, a lot of people we think we might be self aware, but only 10% of humans are really literally self aware. So you know, how self aware are you analyzing that understanding how you can become more self aware. And great leaders make great companies. So that’s what we want to train our great leaders so that they then as they’re leading their company, or soon to be leading their company, we’re trying to give them that incredible humanity, caring, loving, honest, open, transparent acumen that they can take to their companies. And, and it’s really, that they can also take to their personal lives, because we’re teaching them not only how to be a great leader, but a great human. So it’s, it is very intensive. And sometimes there’s crying in these, because you learn a lot about yourself that you did not see or you could not see or you didn’t want to see. So it is absolutely it’s like a therapy session. Right. So, so it’s it’s really neat, but another component of a Leadership Academy is nonprofit fundraising. We love to raise money for others in our town and most of our signature events have a component of nonprofit fundraising, based around sponsorship so so we the leadership can’t To me this year raised nearly $50,000, for the local community school district, for refugees that are coming into our city that don’t have the resources don’t have the means to find the housing, whatever that they’re looking for. So we raised $50,000, for a refugee program in our city, so impactful.

Brandon Burton 20:23
That is awesome. I know, just locally, I’m in the Dallas area. And my wife through our church was very involved with refugees, a couple of walls, I guess, was pre COVID. And they were allowed to, and some of the most humble people and great experiences working with them and hearing their stories and just life changing. So the fact that you guys are raising funds to help out those refugees, it changes lives. So that is a huge impact in your community.

Katherine Harrington 20:53
Is that need to be part of the chamber where you can change people’s lives. I mean, I’ve, I’ve worked for nonprofit organizations my whole life. And I should have started the chamber years ago for and I’ve only been involved for a little over two years. And I’m just like, Oh, I love it with all my heart. It’s amazing work.

Brandon Burton 21:10
Yes. So tell me a little bit more about the discovering the self awareness. So you mentioned now it’s like a therapy session. I as you’re talking about it, I’m picturing all the aha moments where people are like, oh, you know what, I’ve been living my whole life on somebody else’s agenda. You know, let me realize who I am and what I want. So is that kind of how you see things unfold? Or what are? What are some of the experiences that you’ve seen come out of that?

Katherine Harrington 21:38
Well, yeah, we literally have. So we have a number of expert speakers and book writers that are nationally published, that we do hire we pay, you have to audition to be one of our leadership academy trainers. And we do have a super high standard. So we built a great reputation for that. So there are a ha moments. I mean, I remember one woman in particular, you know, standing up saying, you’ve changed my life, this is life changing. And the fact that I know this now, you know, I can take this everywhere with me wherever I go, it was just something really personal. But that that is incredible. That’s so meaningful. So it’s just very fulfilling.

Brandon Burton 22:24
Yeah. And I mean, that’s the, for me, that’s the whole point of a chamber is to be able to, you know, improve your community. And to be able to start with changing individual lives, especially if those people are business owners, the refugees that are coming to the country and starting businesses starting a life here, all of it is going to play into a greater city, a greater community overall. So that kind of transitions into the next question I was going to ask you is, how do you view the role of the Western chamber? What what is your role in your community from your stance? Oh, goodness,

Katherine Harrington 23:02
well, we want to put Western Moines on the map worldwide, literally, and no idea is too, too big or too small to do that. And right now, our biggest need in our community is talent, attraction, workforce attraction. And so we are trying to do everything we can to bring more people to West Des Moines. Now, the way people choose their cities, and places they work is they choose the city first. And then they’ll choose where they want to work after they’ve mobilized and figure out what city do I want to live in. So we are trying along with our city of West Des Moines team, we work closely with them. We’re really trying to trying to create that best city in America to live work and play in every facet. But our job is to promote our city. Think of those big ideas that we can activate and make happen. Because we can we’ve got the means we’ve got the desire, we got the passion, and we can find the money, whatever it is. So we’ve got some really exciting ideas for the future. But we just published for instance, a magazine called 515 West and it is a talent attraction magazine. It is a showpiece. We are going to put it up for some awards, but it’s beautifully designed, captivating, you know, double page spreads that highlights our people or humanity or the beautiful parts of our city, or Parks and Recreation. And we’re gonna be advertising that magazine across the country and targeting key cities that may not have all of the great amenities like West Des Moines has, right? We have a safe, safe community. Our housing prices are low compared to some of your, you know, major cities, our traffic, we don’t have any traffic jams. It’s like 10 minutes to get everywhere. So that We have really, really, really friendly humans, like everybody here is for others. It’s not about me, it’s about how can I help you. And everybody has that acumen. And we’re continually trying to build that and model for others. So we’re huge model. And we’re modeling for the community, right? This is, how can I help you? So we are excited to advertise the 515, West magazine in LA, Denver, Boston, Hartford, Connecticut, because we are a financial and insurance center in the US. But we’re LA, Chicago. So cities like that where you know, it every thought of West Des Moines. style. Yeah, exactly. So we’re going to do a social media campaign in those cities promoting our city to hopefully cross our fingers build interest, awareness and attention and love for our city.

Brandon Burton 25:55
So hopefully, it doesn’t bring the traffic jams with it. Well,

Katherine Harrington 25:59
I know infrastructure is Uh huh. Our whole region has a march to a million theme, which, you know, we’re all we’re all trying to bring more people here to our beautiful city and more people from all over the world all over the country and world. So yeah, and you asked earlier, Brandon, our size of a chamber, we just reached a million dollars in revenue, which is we, that’s new for us. So a million dollar chamber, and even through the pandemic. So, we’ve, we’ve we’ve done really well with serving our community. So yeah, we’re strong chamber.

Brandon Burton 26:36
That is awesome. So as a chamber, the year finalists, I look at all the finalists as as they were kind of setting the benchmark in the chamber world, you guys are doing great things. And I’m curious to see if you have any tips or action items for chambers who are listening who might are interested in taking their chamber up to the next level? What suggestions would you have for them?

Action Item/Tip for Chamber Champions

Katherine Harrington 27:00
I would say don’t be afraid to make bold decisions. Don’t compare yourselves to other chambers. Be unique. Be yourself. Go big. And, you know, I think that’s huge. And that’s just something that, that we challenge ourselves every day, how big can we think how big can we go. And then from a culture perspective, we live, eat and breathe positivity and loving others, and caring for others. So having that acumen I think will set you apart from other other organizations, other people, it is very, very important to keep that positive mindset and look at things on the positive side, chamber life is a lot as we all know, if you’re listening to this, you’re part of a chamber you know, you know, many people walk through your door every day, you get interesting phone calls you you know you have, you’re dealing with so many so many beautiful people in the world. But always see, the positive side always know it’s from comes from a place of good intent. Don’t you know, I’m just always about loving others, and you never know what somebody else is going through. So always give them love back, even if you might not be getting it right. Because sometimes people walk in the door, and they may not be happy about something, it rarely happens to us. But I’ve heard other chambers, you know, having difficulty and I’ve been reading the other blogs and the Facebook, you know, different pages and channels and stuff. But just charging through doing all you can to help others and love others and model for others I think is is just so important to us.

Brandon Burton 28:51
And that goodwill will come back to you as well. Even if they’re not in a mind frame of state of mind to return that love at some point, it always comes back around. So I like that advice. And I like the idea of being bold and going big. Because I think a lot of chambers might be a little scared to go too bold or too big because any fallout that may happen or risk that comes along with it. But you know, have those big dreams and it’s not so much for to make a risk. But to make a difference in your community. You have to dream big and and be bold. So I love that.

Katherine Harrington 29:33
It’s so true. And a lot of it too is imagining revenue streams that are new, unique, different that nobody else is maybe doing because to be a chamber you have to build revenue because you’ve got overhead. Of course you’ve got your staff, but thinking of new ways that you’ve never thought of before to monetize things. You know, we’re a business just like every other business. So treating it like a business is not like a nonprofit, but like a business. We partnered, for instance, our chamber has never done this before in the history of our chamber, we’re partnering with an organization, and we’re selling culture licenses. So we’re helping companies and humans understand what it means to create great culture at their organizations. And because culture is more than we’ve got a beanbag chair over here, and we, you know, we’ve got fabulous beer Fridays, and you get to get off at one o’clock, its culture is a lot more than that. It’s more than than a ping pong table that gets dusty in the middle of the, you know, break room, right? So. So there is a science behind it, there is a science around it. So we’re trying to help companies understand how they can create the best culture. And so we’re starting to launch a program called better culture brought to you by the West Des Moines Chamber of Commerce, and it’s a neat online program self paced, and very, very valuable information. So we’re really excited about that. So, you know, so think of revenue streams that you can build. They know how that helps you grow as a chamber. So that’s, that’s one thing I would say to

Brandon Burton 31:16
like that. And I would, I could sit here and pick your brain for the next hour or two about different revenue stream ideas. But maybe we save that for another conversation. Yes, yeah. So no chambers all over always looking towards the future. And you gave great advice of looking for those revenue streams and staying relevant. But how do you see the future of chambers and their purpose going forward?

Future of Chambers

Katherine Harrington 31:41
Wow. You know, as chambers become larger, it’s interesting in our in our region, we have 24 chambers in our city, which your eyes Brandon’s eyes got big right now. And it’s like, there’s a lot of choices, right. But chambers are in a very unique position to think innovatively creatively, to work with their cities to do the same. I see Chambers as really the leader that helps cities grow and flourish and become the city of the future. And that all depends upon your team, your team has to have that acumen. Right. They have to be that innovative, passionate, hard working mindset in order to do that, but I really see chambers being this, the leaders to help drive those cities for the future thinking of placemaking opportunities, you know, like, what can we do? Mayor, you know, what can we do a mayor city of West Des Moines to create placemaking opportunities that we don’t have here that helps attract the best talent. Maybe we have an indoor, I don’t know, an indoor downhill ski resort. You know, again, we don’t have mountains or an ocean and palm trees. But think big, like, what are the things that we don’t have that will attract and draw, and I listened to a podcast this morning. I love podcasting. It’s so fun. And they talked about small cities being Guinness book world record holders at on various things. One is the largest ball of twine. Okay, but it’s, but it’s a city attraction mechanism. It is, you know, it’s like this draws this ball of twine draws people to the city. So you know, so I see the Chamber’s as as real innovative hub to help cities build the city of the future. And if cities work together like we do, we have a really strong relationship with our city. And we work closely together because they are just incredible. We all have common goals, right. But I see us as the real innovators, that’s going to propel a city forward.

Brandon Burton 33:52
I love that great, great answer. Great response. I live podcast too. So clearly. Katherine, I wanted to give you an opportunity to share any contact information for listeners who might want to reach out and connect with you and learn more about how you guys are doing things there in West Des Moines. What would be the best way for them to reach out and connect?

Connect with Katherine Harrington

Katherine Harrington 34:13
Yeah, sure. My email katherine@wdmchamber.org. And you can see all of our contact information at wdmchamber.org. Our hashtag we’re using is #GoWestWDM and my cell phone number which never leaves my hip Much to my husband’s chagrin is 515-689-4447.

Brandon Burton 34:47
Right now, I’ll get that in the show notes for this episode as well. So anybody listening can go there to find that contact information. But Katherine, this has been great having you on the show. Great discussion, you guys. We’re making a huge impact in your city. And I wish you guys Best of luck as chamber the year.

Katherine Harrington 35:05
Thank you, Brandon. I just want to say, you know, I, I steer the ship, but I don’t you know, I don’t I don’t drive it. Well, I steer it but I don’t. I don’t I’m not the engine, right? Yeah engine of the ship as our team and they are incredible people. And they’re so smart, and they’re so intelligent, I learn something new from them every day. And our board. Our committees are, you know, I could go on and on and on hundreds of members, they’re just all in it together. And I love it so much. So it’s not about me, it’s about our village and our beautiful community and people that support it. So thank you to the chamber team.

Brandon Burton 35:47
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8 Content Methods to Strengthen Your Storytelling

Does Your Chamber Tell Stories?

How does your chamber show up as a storyteller in your community?  What types of stories do you tell?  Our current social media environment shows us that people love to consume stories.  Infact, some social media platforms are shifting from “social media posts” to “stories”.  We often hear how Chambers of Commerce need to be storytellers.  This is because we live in a world where facts and benefits about your organization are important but largely overlooked if you don’t have good stories to back up what you offer.  

I have seen many chamber websites and membership brochures that list the key benefits of and reasons why a business should become a member of their chamber.  While these “lists” have their place, showing the impact and value of your chamber is done much more effectively when done through stories.

Story Platforms

Your storytelling can take place face to face.  Stories can be shared in newsletters, emails, or on social media in snippets.  Some chambers may have a talented staff member who can shoot and edit video to tell their stories.  As you might guess, my preferred method of storytelling is through podcasts.

When thinking of the stories you have to tell, think about who is the ideal audience you want to share the story with.  Where are they?  Where do they hang out digitally?  Do they prefer printed text, pictures, video, or audio?  Are your stories better formatted towards a specific media?

Many chambers like to go straight to social media to tell their stories.  So do a Facebook Live video.  My observation and opinion is that people open their social media apps when they are bored, tired, or stressed.  Social media becomes a mindless activity to pass time without truly engaging on any kind of meaningful level.  For this reason, I would strongly recommend NOT having social media be your primary medium for telling stories.  By all means, use social media to magnify and perpetuate your stories but choose another medium to host and share your stories from.  You may choose to repurpose some of your stories on social media as a teaser or an advertisement for the story in its entirety.

For most chambers, this would leave two primary content mediums, video and audio.  Of course YouTube is the place to host any video content as viewers can subscribe to your channel to receive any updated content.  For audio, podcasts are the place to be.  I have a whole podcast course to teach you how to get started with a podcast.  Every iPhone comes with a podcast app already preinstalled.  This makes it super easy for your audience to listen.

Storytelling Content

Once you know what platform(s) you want to focus on to share your stories, you can then dive into the content for story creation.  I have identified eight types of stories you can tell through your podcast or YouTube channel.  You can choose as many as you feel are relevant to your community or that would add value to your members or attract new members.

  1. Member success stories or member spotlight.  You can interview your own members and have them share how your chamber has helped their business find success.  You can also go a little more generic and have your members tell you about their business or entrepreneurial journey.  People love to hear a good original story and it ends up being a great commercial for your member business as well.
  2. Impact of nonprofits.  Identify and interview other local nonprofit organizations in your area to tell the story of the impact they are making.  You can make the connection of how your chamber helps to support these nonprofits or ways you have partnered with them.
  3. Community Partnerships.  Community partnerships often need a bit more of an explanation for the general public to understand why the partnership exists and what the combined mission is about.  There are often success stories that can go along with partnerships and the impact that is being made in the community.
  4. Advocacy Efforts.  In a very generalized sense, many of your members are still transactional members.  They want to know what the chamber can do for them and if they don’t see it on their bottom line, then they don’t see any value.  By sharing the stories of your advocacy efforts and the direct impact to each member of your chamber, you may sway some of your transactional members to become transformational members.  Promoting your advocacy work also will show your community that the chamber is about business and what is good for business.  The chamber is the sane center where both sides of the isle can come together for the good of your community.
  5. Impact of Events/Initiatives.  If you have people in your community who complain about why the city and/or chamber of commerce shuts down traffic each year for a festival that runs the whole weekend, then it might help to share why.  Telling of the economic impact, increased sales tax revenue, and hotel occupancy in addition to the other positive outcomes of your events might help your community better understand what the chamber is about.
  6. Staff Spotlight.  Do your members and your community know your staff?  Do they understand what the role is of each member of your staff?  If they have a need, wouldn’t it be nice if they felt like they knew the person they were reaching out to?  Doing regular staff spotlights will lead to building stronger relationships with your members which should help with your retention numbers.
  7. Why Members Join.  You are well aware that there are always businesses in your community who don’t know what a chamber of commerce is or why they should be involved.  Collecting and sharing stories of why businesses join your chamber can help to tell a better story or what your chamber has to offer without producing a long list of member benefits.  Remember, people have short attention spans and taking time to highlight just one or two reasons businesses join your chamber at each time will have the most impact.
  8. Testimonials.  A while back, I had Shari Pash on the podcast to talk about testimonial strategies.  This is actually a very simple way of telling very short stories.  Testimonials can be used in many ways.  From reading a testimonial on a podcast episode to including a member testimonial in your email signature, you should be gathering and sharing testimonials all the time!  Testimonials create credibility, social proof, and help with recruiting and retaining members.  Feel free to leave a testimonial or review for Chamber Chat Podcast in Apple Podcasts and see how I might integrate your testimonial into my storytelling strategy. 🙂

You are now equipped with eight strategies for your chamber to be a storyteller.  Now, you just need to lean into your medium of choice (audio or video) and then amplify your stories on your social media channels.  You may find it beneficial to tell some stories over video while others are better on a podcast.  If you utilize this strategy, you can also cross promote your platforms to each other and continue to grow your audiences.


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How Member Feedback and Data Can Help Drive Every Decision

Directional Data

When it comes to driving the course for your chamber, you need to have clear direction.  Can you imagine going for a drive without knowing your final destination or how to get there?  You would end up wasting a lot of time and resources going in the wrong direction while you try to guess where you should be headed.  I heard a quote a while back that said “you can work at 100 mph but if you are not clear on your destination, you will end up 100 miles away from your goal.”  This is true when making business decisions or operating your chamber.  You need to have a clear vision of where your organization should be headed.  

Proof of Concept

About a year after starting Chamber Chat Podcast, I started having some chambers reach out to me about how to get started with their own podcast.  At first I was answering their questions one by one.  Then I thought it would be a good idea to launch an online course to take chambers through the steps to get started.  But, before I invested a lot of time into creating a course, I created a simple downloadable Chamber Podcasting Guide PDF that I gave away for free to interested chambers..  This allowed me to test the market to see if there were more chambers who wanted to start a podcast.  After I had about 150 downloads of this Chamber Podcasting Guide, then I proceeded to create the course and guess who I marketed it to first?  That’s right, those people who had already expressed an interest in podcasting.  This was almost a guarantee that I would get sales for the course.

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When making decisions at your chamber, you should be collecting data along the way.  Collecting and evaluating data will allow you to create more relevant content, programming, and opportunities for involvement by catering to what is important to your member businesses.  Having a clear vision is important, but it also must align with your mission.  If you are collecting interest for programs that are outside of the scope of your mission, you might be better served by partnering with another organization or handing the program off all together.

Ways to Collect Data

Let’s brainstorm on some ways to gather data and member feedback to help you make better decisions.  

  • Understand what makes popular social media posts trend.
  • What are your most attended programs?  What is the content about?
  • Ask new members why they are joining the chamber and what their expectations are.
  • Provide surveys after each event to collect feedback.
  • Ask your members what they value most about their membership with your chamber.
  • Record common questions that members ask your chamber.
  • Post polls on social media for future programming.
  • Survey people who attend community events.

A note about surveys…it is important to be clear about the desired purpose for the event or program you are providing the survey for.  If the person being surveyed doesn’t understand what the intent for a program or event is, then their responses can lead you in the wrong direction.  You should clearly state the reason you put on your community festival for example, the impact it makes throughout the community, and then ask your questions.  This gives more context rather than having a person complaining about the festival because it was too hot that day.

I recently came across a chamber who surveyed their members about whether or not they should continue producing a community guide/directory or a map.  The feedback came back that the members did not want the chamber to produce either publication any more.  This chamber failed to mention the added value to each member of having their name listed in the directory and distributed throughout their community.  They also did not inform their members about the non-dues revenue the chamber receives for their budget from these publications and how having a tangible publication can help with branding your community to newcomers and visitors.  The expectations and reasoning was not properly laid out and for that reason, the members voted the way they did.  With more accurate information, the vote likely would have been much different.

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Interview with Aaron Nelson-Data Driven Decisions

In June of 2021, I had Aaron Nelson from the Greater Chapel Hill-Carrboro Chamber on the podcast to discuss how he approaches data driven decision making.  He talked about how they go about collecting data after every event.  They gather data about the venue, the speakers, the food, just about every aspect of each event that you can think of.  This creates a very clear path going forward for their future events with the understanding that each event is a continual iteration.  

What to do with Data?

One of the tricky aspects about collecting data and gathering member feedback is what to do with it.  If you have a quality platform for your membership software, then this should be your hub for storing all of this data and feedback.  I am partial to the Chamber Nation platform as it is a robust platform with a ton of added value that you don’t find anywhere else. It is also very affordable for even smaller chambers to adopt this platform.  Many chambers even turn the Chamber Nation platform into a non-dues revenue generator within a few months.  As you collect data and input it into the Chamber Nation platform, you are also able to produce monthly activity reports for each member so they can see the ROI of their membership.  This is providing data to your members to help them make better decisions!

The key is to continually collect and record the data and feedback from your various sources so you can learn what is important to your members.  Once you know what is important to them, you will have better engagement with your programming because you are providing more targeted value to your members.


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Paducah Area Chamber-ACCE Chamber of the Year Finalist with Sandra Wilson

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Guest Introduction

This is a special episode and our 2022 ACCE chamber the year finalist series and our guests for this episode is Sandra Wilson. Sandra is President and CEO of the Paducah Area Chamber of Commerce in Kentucky. She joined the chamber in 2013 after working 26 years for a large manufacturer as Public Affairs Manager. As a community volunteer. She was the first woman to serve as Chairman of the Board of the Paducah area Chamber in 1996. And later also the first woman to chair the Paducah Economic Development Board. on a statewide level, she served as chairman of the Kentucky Manufacturers Association and on the boards of the Kentucky Chamber of Commerce and leadership, Kentucky. She’s a graduate from Murray State University Leadership, Kentucky and leadership but Paducah.

Sandra, I’m excited to have you with me today on chamber chat podcast. Congratulations being selected as a chamber of the year finalist. Why don’t you take a few minutes to say hello to all the Chamber Champions and share something interesting about yourself so we can all get to know you a little better.

Sandra Wilson 3:11
Oh, thank you, Brandon. It’s it’s my honor to be on your show today. We really appreciate the opportunity to talk about the our chamber here in our community. And so thank you for this invitation. We were thrilled to be named to finalists for chamber of the year. It’s tough competition. It’s a lot of work. And so we’re very excited about it. The Paducah Area Chamber of Commerce, of course is located in Western Kentucky. We are a city of about 26,000 and a county that includes our city of about 65,000. We’ve been around a long time. We were established in the I don’t know that 80 years ago, we have over 900 members. And we just wake up every morning and go to sleep every night thinking about how we can make our community better. I bet you hear that a lot. But that’s that’s what we do. We say that anyway, it’s a great honor to serve our community. For me, you know, I did work in manufacturing for many years, and was always active with the chamber. So when I in 2013, I had the opportunity to become the president and CEO of the chamber. I was like yes, yes pick me. I’m so excited to be in this role. For a fun fact. I years ago many years ago was on the prices right? And it wasn’t the hour long version. It was a nighttime version. They were trying out with Tom Kennedy as the host who is also from Kentucky. That’s a story with itself. And I was in Watch out in California and they interview you or they did at the time and they asked me where I was from and I said Paducah, Kentucky. It’s halfway between monkey’s eyebrow and Possum Trot. And I’ll never forget the like one of the three selectors looking at me say are those names was a rural towns? And I was like, yes, yes, they are. And they said, What are you doing live in there? And I just kind of made a joke about what I’ve been asking myself that same question. So then I got on the show and was a big winner. Then about two years after that, somebody was at the movie theater, and they called me and said, You’re in a movie. And so I was in the movie, the flight of the Navigator. It’s a really fun kids movie. And the little boy is gone in a spaceship, and he’s trying to get home. And the family is trying to help him talk him into getting home, and they’re watching television or the television is on in their den. And at one part in the movie, the whole movie screen goes to the TV screen. And it’s Tom Kennedy and me standing there in the process, right? So I’ve been in a Disney movie, I’ve been on the process, right, and just had a great time. I guess I want career.

Brandon Burton 5:58
That is awesome. I love that I’d love asking this question because I get to learn these these neat things. Now I need to rewatch flight of the Navigator. We watched it during the COVID pandemic with our kids. And I can introduce them to that. But I need to go back on the Disney plus now in what three watch that.

Sandra Wilson 6:15
It’s a fun movie. And you know, I also work with our leadership pudica program. And so every year, you know, when you’re getting to know each other, I usually kind of tell that story about it. And it does. It’s not too long before somebody will either find that section in the movie, or I’ve even I tell them if they become the best class ever. I will show them the video of when I’m on the process, right? Because there’s kind of a funny moment at the end when I do when the showcase. And Tom Kennedy comes up to me and says Sandra, what do you have to say, and I just kind of froze and said, pitch me is this rail, and sock almost kind of feel that way now about being a finalist of chamber of the year. It’s just such an honor and such a thrill.

Brandon Burton 6:56
That is awesome, good, good loop coming, bringing it full circle back to the chamber of the year. So you mentioned a little bit about your chamber that you know just over 900 members and tell us a little bit more maybe you know Scope of Work size of staff budget, things like that just to help give us a better idea. Before we get into our discussion.

About the Paducah Area Chamber

Sandra Wilson 7:18
Here we have a staff of five, myself, we have a vice president of operations. We have a Member Services Director, a programs and public policy director and then our administrative assistant. So we are a small staff that we’re very mighty. And we run a lot of different programs. I would say the Paducah chamber is probably known the most for our advocacy efforts. And I think that’s one reason why I was chosen for this position as well is because I’ve been working in advocacy, really my entire career. I worked for a paper mill before and worked on stateless at the state legislature on the state level. And on the federal level, I’ve always gone to our state capitol, I’ve always gone to DC, some so I knew all of that. And we have been very involved with advocacy. We have the Department of Energy site here that closed in 2013, the week before actually started at the chamber. So we knew that things were going to be changing. They had been in operations for 5060 years. And they were closing, but they’re still going to be here another 3040 years in the cleanup phase. So we had to start working on getting that in place, making sure that the contractors were going to be part of the community that we were going to get the funding that we needed. So those are things that in our advocacy efforts. We’re known for going to DC and asking. And I’ve been told back senators and our congressmen that we’re not scared to ask, you know, Ron, pretty, we’re pretty persistent. When we say something that our community needs, and we try to be organized, we try to make our case, be respectful, and really push for things that we need from the federal level and from the state level.

Brandon Burton 9:00
That that helps. And the advocacy work is so important to and I’m glad to see you guys have grasped on to that. And that’s kind of your area of expertise as far as work at your chamber. Yes, thank

Sandra Wilson 9:13
you. It is a it is a big part of us. I would think I would also say that we really have added a lot for small business. We started a cohort program in 2021. We had 16 to graduate from it. We used to nationally known author Mike McCalla wits is booked fixes next. He actually we contracted with him to join us for two sessions. So we we’ve done a lot of seminars and you know, when COVID hit, all of us had to change the way we were running our chambers. And so we did that we pivoted we wanted to help our small businesses to stay in business. We brought in a lot of resources for them, to help them into advise them. And so I think that’s some They’ll set we’re known for and then really just being a convener of people through a lot of our different programs. We have just finished our 35th year for leadership Paducah. We just finished our 11th year for our youth league program. We have a really active particular young professionals program. We’ve started some other set to intern initiative. So all of that some time kind of ties into workforce because we know every place is short of workers. And we’re all trying to get those. So we’ve encouraged our employers to hire interns, and then we’ve encouraged them to have the interns get involved with us, because we want them to work with young professionals and to fall in love with our community and want to come back here and live and work.

Brandon Burton 10:45
I love that. So for our topic for our discussion today, being that this is a chamber the year finalist episode, what I like to do is focus on the two programs synopsis you guys submitted with your chamber that your application will dive into that discussion with those programs as soon as they get back from this quick break.

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All right, Sandra, we are back. Why don’t you tell us maybe just at a high level first what the two programs are that you guys submitted on your your chamber that your application and then we’ll circle back around into a little more detail on each of them.

Topic-Chamber of the Year Application Programs

Sandra Wilson 14:04
Great, I think the application boy it really helps you evaluate what you’ve done. And so we had part of our advocacy efforts had been to work with the FAA through the Department of Transportation, the US Department of Transportation and with our state about our airport. We are one EPA is one of only five commercial airports in Kentucky. We had united service to Chicago for two flights a day with through the local cons of local carrier with Sky West and we are an EIS airport, which is the central air service. So we do get a subsidy from the federal government on that. And we were operating out of a terminal that was built in 1953. So it really was preventing us from growing and so thinking back this was written 2018 and 2019 there was I’m the actually the call about the possibility of us being able to get 20 million from the Federal Aviation Administration to replace our old terminal came to the political chamber. So we took that on. And we’ve worked very closely to raise the money. And we have, you know, the community itself has been very successful in getting that money. And we had a groundbreaking and have that under construction right now to get a new airport terminal here. Excuse me, the second one, the second program that we submitted was called leaders for the future. And we, during COVID, you know, we were working really hard to keep all of our leadership programs viable and relevant. But you know, when you’ve got 30, or 40, people on Zoom calls, and they’re listening to speakers all day, it kind of totally changes the direction or changes the focus of your leadership programs. So it really helped us just there were two things that helped us to establish our second synopsis. And that was the Leadership Center. And we had a foundation with our leadership for the foundation. And we thought that that would be a way to expand our funding was to use our foundation, which many chambers do, we’ve had our change our foundations, and we felt like we wanted to grow that. So we raised half a million dollars in our community during COVID, to establish the leadership center so that we could enhance our current program and expand our program as well.

Brandon Burton 16:29
So talk let’s talk about that one. First that talk to us a little bit more about the leadership center. Is that a physical location where people come in is that in general, kind of the the infrastructure is it both tell us what that is exactly what it’s,

Sandra Wilson 16:47
it’s housed here at the chamber. And I would say our goal for this that we really focused on in our synopsis was establishing the Leadership Center and raising the funding for it and determining the direction. So we there was a gentleman by the name of Dr. Nick brake, who’s with Western Kentucky University, who had done a study of small cities and some of the things that they were lacking. And we looked through that and studied it and Lee studied it studied Paducah. And leadership training was a was something that was missing on a on a broader level. So that’s where we felt like we could come in, we had a proven track record with our leadership, Paducah class, and our youth lead and our young professionals and the different programs that are involved with that. And we felt like we could expand and enhance that programming. And to make it stronger. We also are active with association of leadership programs. It’s a national organization for leadership programs. And you see, in the end, those about a lot of leadership centers are indeed separate independent in their community and that half are run through the chamber. We want to keep all of that bass through the chamber. We just wanted to make it a new branding, I would guess a new branding and a new way to enhance all of our programming.

Brandon Burton 18:08
Okay. All right. So it sounds like you already had the foundation setup before you went down that road. What was the basis for the foundation? How long have you had that I’d like to share more information about that for chambers that maybe don’t have a foundation set up yet. And the value in having one and being able to leverage that to further the mission of your chamber.

Sandra Wilson 18:32
Well, of course, if you’re involved with ACCE, you know how important foundations are, and they’ve really focused a lot of the attention on that. And I appreciate that because it is a new way to change some of your funding and to leverage being a 501 C three foundation. So it is a process to go through. We had established ours for the leadership pudica foundation many years ago. And it was it prior to me being here, but it was for our leadership programs that I don’t think we had leveraged as as much as we could. And so we took that on and to try to really make it more visible in the community. We did not want to do a capital campaign to raise money for our leadership center our community had has a lot of capital campaigns going on for other organizations, that was not our intent to compete with those our intent was to just reach out to those that we felt like would want to be with Bob with us on it and we could benefit from it and raise that money in and start the programs.

Brandon Burton 19:37
Okay. Now that that gives a good idea of kind of that that founding and structure leading into that that program. So let’s say circle back with the at the airport terminal. At some point as you guys are going down that path with you know, getting the money for it and kind of seeing In the development of it, the COVID pandemic hits, right. And what were the thoughts as you guys kind of navigated through those waters to see the first when travel in general really got shut down, but then all the other ramifications that have come with that.

Sandra Wilson 20:21
Who could have ever predicted what was going to happen with COVID-19, and how it was going to impact what areas, you know, so many things have rebounded quickly, and travelers certainly rebounded quickly. But we were in the midst of that we had, you know, we have a relative, we’ve gone to DC every year for the last 20 plus years, we take about 50 to 60 people every September, and meet with the Federal Aviation Administration, Department of Transportation with, we also have a large river industry here. So we’re very active with the maritime industry, Mayor Ed in DC, of course, we would meet with most of the all of the congressman from Kentucky, we’ve actually met with Congressman from Tennessee, and some in Mississippi at different times that are on committees that would impact operations that we might have in here. So we had been talking about our terminal for years with the Department of Transportation. And in fact, in 2007, we were in DC and I we we included a copy of this in our application, the front page story, we were on the front page of the newspaper, that FAA was going to give us a certain amount of money at that time that we could use for a new terminal. But we came home and we were going to have to raise a lot of the money ourselves locally. And at that point, you know, just did not happen. The timing was not right, I would say. So circle back, we continue going to DC every year, we continue talking about the Essential Air Service how important that is to us. We build great relationships. And the FAA has a program that will help provide funding for new terminals. And we find out about it. In fact, I love to say the call came in to the chamber that this funding was available and $20 million. And so you had to have a lot of matching funds. There were a lot of qualifications that you had to do to get that 20 million, but we embraced it. We knew that the only way we were going to be able to continue to grow our airport was to have a new terminal. We were very severely restricted for a lot of things out there with our small, almost 70 year old terminal. So we met with the Federal Aviation Administration, we can actually out let me back up and say we convened the people in our community that can make that happen. We made the call to the mayor, we made the call to the board, chair of the airport, the Regional Authority Board for the airport. We brought them together, we coordinated phone calls with the Department of Transportation and then we brought in the Memphis district of the FIA to Paducah. It met with them and started this whole process. But we then it became very evident 20 million was not going to build a new airport terminal. So at that point, we started looking at on a statewide level, because our chamber is also very active in the state. So we have state priorities that we develop every year that we’re working on while our legislature is in session. And so we determined that we were going to ask our state legislature for money for the new terminal as well. About that time, we had a governor’s race going on which booths becoming pretty hotly contested. And so we have hosted forums before and we decided, well, let’s go for a gubernatorial forum, and see if we can get that. And we have a really good reputation for doing those and keeping them nonpartisan and making sure that the crowds very respectful. In fact, when people come to our forums are not allowed to even clap or talk during the forum so that we have the media asking the question, but we typically reserve it where we can ask a chamber related question to so because the airport funding was on our state priorities. That was our question to the current governor and his challenger. Where do you see the state being able to help our Paducah airport, Barclay Regional Airport with racing funds to build a new terminal? And both both knew that that question was going to be on there. They were very prepared and both pledged to help that. So at a minimum of 5 million, we were hoping for more but they both pledged that day for 5 million. So this was in November of 2019. And then, you know, of course there it was there at that form was in October of 2019. So then, the election is done in November and the new governor takes office and we immediately are Frankfort meeting with him at our state capitol reminding him of that pledge. And he comes to Paducah in February of 2020, with a check for $5 million.

And, you know, we have the big announcement at the airport. So, you know, we’re beginning to get a 20 million from FAA, we see other funding we can apply for with FAA, we’re getting the 5 million from the state. So we’re beginning to build so much momentum. And then of course, COVID, hit March of 2020. But we didn’t give up because we knew that once COVID was passed, that we really did feel like the air, you know, people would begin to travel again. And we wanted to have our new terminal ready for when that happened. Never would we have imagined that we would have the pilot shortage that we have. Now, I don’t know how you could have predicted that. But you know, the major airlines have a lot of their pilots over 6000 have retired during COVID. So they have been utilizing smaller airport terminals, smaller airline carriers, getting those pilots to go to work for them. So there’s just a shortage right now of pilots. But we haven’t stopped. I mean, we are continuing, we may be changing carriers or a lot of things that may be changing with the airport. But we still have a new terminal under construction, we’ve ended up raising over $42 million for it, our city and our county both are participating in it, we were able to get more money for during the COVID many. So we are in a really good place right now for the airport. And we felt you know that we helped to launch that and feel very proud that to play the role that we did to get the thing going on the funding.

Brandon Burton 26:43
So you had mentioned you know how often you guys are going to Washington and and you know, advocating for for Paducah. How is it that you had mentioned you got a call about the FFA FAA funding? How is it that you are on their radar? Is it because of your trips to Washington and those relationships that you built you built over the years? Or how did that had? Looking back? How do you see things as they came together?

Sandra Wilson 27:11
Well, I do think it’s relationships and, and being vocal about what you need. You know, our senators and our congressmen knew that we wanted to try to get funding for a new terminal, that we were growing our airport, it’s very important for our economy in this community. And we’re very proud to be one of only five airports in Kentucky commercial airports. It was, you know, we had two flights a day go into Chicago, and they were both full pre COVID. And that has been picking back up. It’s I think, you know, it’s it’s critical that you know, the people you have relationships, and they know your needs.

Brandon Burton 27:53
Yeah. And I think I love this program, because when you think back 70 years ago, I mean, I wasn’t around, but the technology and aircraft alone, and how it syncs up with these terminals and everything, I’m sure, yeah, it was overdue for an upgrade, just to keep up with the times and technologies.

Sandra Wilson 28:15
You know, they’re one thing about in community sometimes or in with with chambers, I think sometimes we can be humble. And we, we like to put the credit to others in our community. And so it’s hard for us to say, well, we helped lead that effort. But we did I mean in. And I think that’s what that was kind of a good process to be able to talk about that. In the in the synopsis, we had all of the research from the airport about why we would need a new terminal we’d been fighting for, you know, looking for funding for years. And it just all finally came together. And it takes an organization like a chamber of commerce, that has the the the knowledge and the grit, and the willingness to take it on and really to help push. Now, again, I’m going to say we’re just what we were one part of it, I’m gonna push all a lot of the credit, our city and county both got involved. We had a great air later at the airport, you know, their board was very active. So you know, it’s a lot of credit goes to a lot of organizations and individuals that we were very proud to have played our part to help get it launched and to bring people together to begin the discussion. And to have the attitude that yes, the time is now we can do this. Why would we wait? Why would we not embrace the fact that we we can make this happen?

Brandon Burton 29:44
Right. And I believe that you do need to talk about those wins, those influences you’ve had in the community and showing that you’re able to convene those leaders and influencers to make something happen. Otherwise, how do those leaders and influencers realize how to get some something big like this done in the future if they don’t fully understand the role of the chamber as a convener as a champion as a catalyst, you need to be talking about it. So good job to you guys. Thank you. I wanted to ask you has it as the chamber, the year finalist, how do you see the role of the Paducah chamber in your community?

Sandra Wilson 30:22
We are a strong convener of people, we are a I hope people would look to us as the leader, that if they have an at an advocacy issue, and we saw that during COVID-19, a lot, you know, a lot of companies would call us and ask us specific questions, and we knew who to put them involved with. If we didn’t have the answer ourselves, we were connecting them with Department of unemployment or the Small Business Administration. So a connector, a convener and a leader. Those are some of the roles that we really embrace the most.

Brandon Burton 30:55
I love that and such important roles as well. So I’d like to asking if you might have any tips or action items for listeners who may want to take their chamber up to the next level, what would you suggest that they maybe look at or try implementing at their chamber,

Action Item/Tip for Chamber Champions

Sandra Wilson 31:14
I think it’s important that you have a strong board that support you. And looking at the big picture of what your community needs, and you can’t, you may not be able to be all things to everybody, but maybe you pick up the things that you see are the most important and that your board is supportive of, and just really work on them. I know I’m you know, I can be persistent, hidden and probably pushy sometimes. But if we have an issue that we believe in so much, and that our community has identified as really important way, I just feel like we have to fight for it, we have to go for it, and try to do things that will help your community to grow and be a stronger community. So I think you have to have strong leadership. And you have to have a great plan, a strategic plan of where you want to go and what’s important to your community.

Brandon Burton 32:16
Yeah, I think it’s so important to have that strong supportive board. And to realize that you as the chamber, you have some some direction, on who those people are, how they support you, like, dive in deep and learn how to work with a board to develop a strong supportive board. So

Sandra Wilson 32:37
very important, you can’t you have to have a strong board, we’ve talked about that we had a training in Kentucky this week, where we just talked a little bit about board orientation, recruiting board members, onboarding them, and I just can’t stress enough how important it is that you have the right people on your board.

Brandon Burton 33:00
And I’m sure every time you hear a training on board development, you always hear something like, oh, yeah, and it may not be something brand new, but it’s like, I need to do that better, or I need to implement that. But you know, it’s usually stuff you’ve heard before, but it’s how to make it all work as a well oiled machine.

Sandra Wilson 33:18
Absolutely. I came away with notes this week. And I’ve been doing this for a long time now. But you know, on the legal side, the financial side, the obligation side, those are the things you know, we have, we do have a strong board, and we have great board meetings, and we have great participation. But boy, then you start talking deducted. I have reminded them of that, do they understand that all of these others, the simple things, I like to look at the big picture things,

Brandon Burton 33:44
right? Absolutely. So I like asking everyone I have on the show, how do you see the future of chambers and their purpose going forward?

Future of Chambers

Sandra Wilson 33:54
Why ICC is doing a lot of study on that, how to build a chamber for the future. And I know that they have a lot of information about it. But I think you have to be ready to be the leader in your community, and be accepting of that role. And be willing to do that. And I going back to what we’ve talked about earlier, you have to determine what’s important for you and for your community and be really willing to take that leadership role. And let’s face it, every community has different issues, you know, larger communities have may be able to take on different projects in what we would larger chambers can take on different issues in what we can with a staff of five. So you have to be collaborative with other organizations in your community if you’re a small community and, and be willing to have courage. I would think that with courage and purpose those are two words that ICCE talks about and I would say amen to that you have to lead with courage and purpose.

Brandon Burton 35:00
I love that. So Sandra, I wanted to give you an opportunity to share any contact information for listeners who may want to reach out and learn more about how you’re doing things. They’re in Paducah what would be the best way for them to reach out and connect with you.

Connect with Sandra Wilson

Sandra Wilson 35:16
Well, my direct email is swilson@paducahchamber.org. I’m going to spell Paducah. It’s p a ducah.org. But it could chamber.org. Or if you forget s Wilson, you can always send it to info at Paducah, chamber.org. And it’ll come to me, always happy to help. I have gone through the IBM program with the US Chamber. And, you know, I’m not saying I have it all down, Pat. But I’m happy to tell you this challenges that we’ve seen, the trial and errors we’ve gone through and the successes we’ve had that have been some of the big, you know, just great celebrations, and I believe in celebrating the wins when you have them and in our community. And you need to look for those every day to try to celebrate the things that you’re doing right and not get caught up in the little things that are in the weeds. And I’m talking to myself right now, while I’m saying that to you because it’s easy to do. And in our meeting earlier this week with other chamber execs, if you’re not in the chamber world, you don’t really understand what goes on in the chamber world. And so we have to really support each other. And that’s why I’m always happy to talk to anyone and support them in any way that I can.

Brandon Burton 36:28
I love that. And that is such a great trait amongst chamber leaders as well being able to offer that support and mentorship. I’ll say that so

Sandra Wilson 36:39
absolutely. Thank you, Brandon for what you do with the podcast that what a great resource for our profession.

Brandon Burton 36:45
Thank you. I enjoy doing it and hope everybody’s getting a lot of value from from listening to people like you that Sandra this has been great having you on the show. Thank you for spending time with us today on Chamber Chat Podcast and wanted to wish you and the Paducah area Chamber Best of luck as chamber of the year.

Sandra Wilson 37:04
Thank you so much. We appreciate it.

Brandon Burton 37:07
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North Tampa Bay Chamber-ACCE Chamber of the Year Finalist with Hope Kennedy

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Introduction

Brandon Burton 0:00
This is the Chamber Chat Podcast, the show dedicated to chamber professionals to spark ideas and to get actionable tips and strategies to better serve your members and community.

And now your hosts his Saturdays are full with his daughter’s volleyball and basketball games. He’s my dad Brandon Burton.

Hello, chamber champions. Welcome to the Chamber Chat Podcast. I’m your host, Brandon Burton, and you’re joining us for a special episode as we interview the 2022 ACC chamber the year finalist in this chamber the year finalist series.

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Guest Introduction

Our guest for this episode is hoped Kennedy Hope is the president and CEO of the North Tampa Bay Chamber in Florida. Hope assumed the role of president and CEO in July of 2012 and as a Florida certified chamber professional. Since this time, she’s led the organization through two chamber acquisitions, a name and brand change and a stringent certification process. In 2019, the North Tampa Bay chamber was recognized as chamber the year by the Florida Association of chamber professionals hopes work to support businesses of all sizes fans her entire career. Before joining the Wesley Chapel chamber in 2012. She served Pensacola Chamber members as the organization’s vice president of membership. During her tenure hope was instrumental in the recovery efforts post Hurricane Ivan and the BP oil spill. In this role hope also successfully designed implemented strategies resulting in the engagement of more than 200 of Pensacola businesses business leaders in a campaign to attract Southwest Airlines. Hope has also led membership and business development for United Way and the capital area as well as the greater Jackson chamber partnership both in Jackson, Mississippi. In 2001, her chamber received a prestigious recognition for being a pride business ally from the tampa bay business journal. In 2017, the tampa bay business journal named her as one of Tampa Bay’s most 100 influential business people. In 2005, the Mississippi Business Journal recognized hope as a top 40 under 40 for the state of Mississippi in 2008. ACCE awarded her for outstanding membership and in 2010 The Independent News in Pensacola named Hope a rising star. Hope is an MBA candidate at the University of Florida and earned her undergraduate degree in business from Belhaven University in Jackson, Mississippi, and resides in North Tampa with her 16 year old daughter. Hope I’m excited to have you with me here on Chamber Chat Podcast. First of all, congratulations for being selected as a chamber the year finalist. But why don’t you take a moment to say hello to all the Chamber Champions and yourself?

Hope Kennedy 4:11
Yeah, hello to all my Chamber Champions. Those of us who are doing what I call the Lord’s work. They jack of all trades and the masters of nine. Thank you so much, Brandon, for having me here with you today. As you can tell them a chamber junkie. I’ve been doing this started in the basement in Jackson, Mississippi. Um, you wanted me to give a something a lot of people don’t know. In the chamber world. I was bitten by a pygmy rattlesnake. I’m live to tell about it. So there’s my fun there’s more of a story there. Yeah, there’s a very good story behind that of it. I stepped on the little guy and and ended up in ICU for five days. is so so there’s my fun fact of me.

Brandon Burton 5:04
Yeah. Wow, that is that is something interesting for sure that you weren’t expecting that one. No, I get to know people on a different level by asking that question. Well tell us a little bit about the North Tampa Bay chamber just to give us some perspective. Before we get into our discussion, just give us an idea of the size of the chamber type of chamber staff budget, that sort of thing.

About the North Tampa Bay Chamber

Hope Kennedy 5:28
Yeah, sure. I love to talk about it. So we’re a baby chamber, we’re only 27 years old. In the chamber world, we all know that as being a baby chamber. You alluded to it in my bio, we were the formerly the Wesley Chapel Chamber of Commerce. Back then, I took over in 2012. I like to refer to us with no disrespect to anyone in the industry. But we were the Mary Kay sorority, our chamber was doing all of the the fun stuff, the three P’s. Because we had to because we were the only organization in our community that was organized enough to produce events and these outcomes. As the years have gone by, we have had two mergers with two separate organizations leading us to become a Regional Chamber, we have a very large geographic footprint that we call our service area. But as we all know, chambers do not have boundaries, are you some some do just by geography of their names. But in general, US chambers have service areas. So we encompass a very large service area, just north of Tampa Bay in the city of Tampa. There are many chambers of commerce in our, in our area and our communities. And I, I love to say if you’ve seen one chamber, you’ve seen one chamber, each individual organization presents something different. And I always try and encourage our members that if you can join all of them, most certainly do that, because you’re gonna get something individualized for each and every single one of them. As far as the size of our organization, we have always been very lean and mean. We are now a staff of three. That includes myself, during the time in which we submitted this application. It is for the years, 2019 and 20. And we were a staff of two, during during that time, we had to make some very hard decisions at the beginning of COVID. We did and those are the reasons that I think that we’ve been been successful, we have just shy of 600 members. Within our within our chamber, we have a very small budget, which I’m actually not ashamed to say we are $400,000 budget. We are at 5% membership dues, which is an interesting model. And I’m sure I’ll have some interesting things to say and people will look at me just kind of a little cross eyed when when we talk about if we get a chance to talk about those things, but I have a very strong conviction that we are a membership based organization and that we should be reliant on our members to sustain our organization. So we set our budget each year based on actual retention numbers. We do not take any funding outside of our our membership organization we have a little bit of non dues revenue streams. But as far as other things we are 85% membership based

Brandon Burton 8:56
Wow. Yeah, that’s that’s not a normal thing to see these days.

Hope Kennedy 9:00
So it’s definitely not and I can tell you that it very much works for for us then in for our members and that’s

Brandon Burton 9:10
what it’s all about. But what works for your for your community. So that’s awesome. So as we do these chamber, the are finalists interviews, what I’d like to do is touch on the two programs you submitted on your chamber that your application and I look forward to diving into these programs with you learning more about what’s making the North Tampa Bay chamber great into the noticed at this level. And we’ll get into that discussion as soon as they get back from this quick break.

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Alright, hope we’re back. So as I mentioned before the break, we’ll talk about the two programs that you submitted on your chamber the your application. So let’s let’s first approach them both from maybe a high level just what the two programs are. And then we can circle back into a little bit more detail on each of them.

Topic-Chamber of the Year Application Programs

Hope Kennedy 12:16
Well, I’ll start by saying this was not an easy exercise to nail down to programs that we wanted to showcase. And ACCE gives you the opportunity to send in your topic, synopsis reel, just a very brief and the first one came back and they loved it. The second one, they were like, No, everybody should be doing that one that one’s not going to move the needle, we want to see something else. So we looked internally to try and figure out what it is what you know, because when you do it all day, every day, and over these past couple of years, you kind of forget what you did that made an impact and what we submitted. Our first one was called the chamber roadshow. And it was a we are open a campaign that happened extraordinarily organically. There was no budget, there was no plan, there was no nothing. It just it just kind of happened. And I’m happy to dive into that and share that. And then our second one was our award show. And it wasn’t because that we took it virtually at all. That wasn’t what we wanted to highlight. What we wanted to highlight is us to focus on business Small Business of the Year Entrepreneur of the Year, new business over the year, Yatta Yatta, yatta. We knew those did not have any significance whatsoever with the year that just happened. So we had to reimagine what the awards would look like we knew that our community needed to have a celebration of sorts. As we were coming out of the shutdown, we we took a deep dive in and said, Well, why don’t we use our core values as an organization to award to our members. So instead of having Small Business of the Year, large business of the year, we went with the innovation award with the collaboration award, the inclusivity award in the integrity award. And so we set all new metrics and criteria for each of those and we spelled it out what those really meant it and then we were able to sprinkle in some community heroes into that as well. So we’re we’re very, very proud of being able to turn that into something that meant that meant our organization was highlighting the things that we hold dear. And we did it again the second year as well and our members have really taken to that in the those awards.

Brandon Burton 14:57
So I’m I want to learn more about both of these. But I have to ask the question, since you told the backstory to it, which one of these programs is one that you got the positive feedback from initially, and I only asked to help other chambers. Yeah, by in the future.

Hope Kennedy 15:12
The chamber roadshow got that one got a thumbs up. Our second submission was not our awards, if we were going to submit for our dei work. And the comments back were that all chambers should be doing that show something that you have moved the needle. Yeah. And so we, again, had to come back and look internally and say, Well, gosh, all of the stuff that we did, we couldn’t show metrics. We didn’t keep track of all of this information, to submit for an award. Just a backup really quick. Chamber of the year, ACC was not on our radar for this year. It it was I just wanted to submit the benchmarking survey. Yeah, to make sure that I was in line, I love ACC, and I love everything that they do. And I love to be able to have that data to show our board to show our volunteers. And so that was all I was doing. I was proud that I completed it, actually. And then we get the note that says, hey, you’re eligible to submit. And I sent it to my board chair, thinking, I don’t know what I was thinking I didn’t really know. I was just like, excited that we could submit. And then I started looking at some of the other applications from the year before and I was like, ready to pull the plug. I was like, we’re not ready for primetime. There’s no way we can get this done. It’s turned around. We don’t have a graphic artists, we don’t do this. Well, thankfully, my board chair who a phenomenal leader says to me and he says hope I don’t own this statement, but you miss 100% of the shots you don’t take. And so I said, Alright, let’s do this. And so it was a awesome exercise. For for us in being such a small staff. I had four volunteers from my board that assisted with the application.

Brandon Burton 17:22
That’s great to get them involved with the process as well. So

Hope Kennedy 17:25
it was it was interesting, the questions that they came back and asked me, yeah, so you know, it was, again, the whole thing was just a really great exercise.

Brandon Burton 17:35
And that’s awesome. Well, let’s, let’s maybe start with the award show, you talked about reimagining the awards, making it more of a celebration, kind of looking at new metrics and criteria. Tell us how that unfolded. What did some of these new awards look like? How was how were they received, and just dive into whatever you feel would be relevant for listeners? Sure.

Hope Kennedy 18:01
So you know, I had some reservations, at the time of having an award ceremony, we still were not able to gather in the state of Florida, our awards had always been a cocktail attire, celebratory, you know, VIP event prior to just a big production. So we knew that we were going to take that all the way down to virtual in what the virtual looked like, was completely different. None of us knew what was going on. We figured it out. We lived through the logistics of that. And then when we set out for nominations, we explained what each category what we were looking for. So for collaboration, we were looking for programs from our members that showed that they collaborated with somebody else and what their metrics were and how they, they utilized it. The integrity award was more of an internal process than an examples of how they were. They showed integrity during COVID. And we used it for the last for those years. So we wanted to hear their stories about their business and how they were able to do these things to have inclusivity in within their organization when you couldn’t even meet. So

Brandon Burton 19:32
there’s kind of some healing that goes on as they’re able to tell their stories and kind of get that out there and kind of put it behind them as they move forward, I’d imagine.

Hope Kennedy 19:41
Right? And it was cathartic. It was you know and then to be able to celebrate those that were the recipients that hey, you did and do deed do some great things very similar to what you know we’re going through as an organization right now with this award. So it’s kind of like coming full circle. So we do request, nominations. And then the the business that is nominated submits an application. So we sent them the application, the application is six, five or six questions. And every application is in the same format so that it returns in the judges, they all get the same questions. And so they we had a record number of submissions that year, usually will have, I don’t even know the number right off the top of my head, I’ve heard I’ve already buried this one, onto the next thing. But usually, we have about a third that actually submit the application. That year, we had a little bit over half. So those that were nominated, actually took the time to submit their applications. So they are scored by an independent panel of judges. And then the, the judges don’t even come together. They don’t talk about it. It’s just based on those numbers. And then they’re presented. And then we have the finalists. So what we did was we made it into a storytelling opportunity. So each one of the finalists were highlighted within their categories. And so the world that was watching because we did have people watching from around the world, which was great, too. So some of the businesses whose family was out in another part of the country wouldn’t normally be able to attend a chamber award show, was able to attend and participate and watch it live. And then, so we got to tell their stories. And so the business community got to hear more about what they did. And we had watch parties. So people who were comfortable watching together as groups, a lot of the finalists companies kind of had like a company, company happy hour. And we would go we would show pictures from their watch party on the live feed. And it was great. And they were able to actually give acceptance speeches. So it was it was interactive. And, and it was great. But what we’re most proud of is that we were able to tell their stories, and it wasn’t about the chamber. At this point it was about them, and what they had done to come out of it. And you know, if one of the examples of innovation was one of our winners, was a wine company, they sell wine, they did Wine tastings, they did all of these wine pairing events, and all of these different things. Well, they weren’t technologically advanced. However, they managed to figure out a way to do wine tastings via zoom. And they did. And they have been extraordinarily successful. And they were able to get the wine to the people in the cheese, just all of the different components and then do the class online. And then all of these people could could participate. So they tapped into a whole new market that they didn’t know was even there. And so for them to share that story and how they partnered with other businesses in our community to do the same thing. So

Brandon Burton 23:25
that’s awesome. So I I’ve really liked the aspect you touched on about having viewers from all over the world, you know, in these finalists, yeah, these people have been selected to have their stories highlighted. I can imagine them sharing the link that to YouTube, or Facebook or whatever it is, for their family members or friends out of the area to watch. Like what a way to show the impact that a chamber has in a community than a broadcast. And I know we were forced to during COVID to go digital and broadcast things. But I think even going forward, there’s still some value to broadcasting some of these award shows, you know, let these people these recipients broadcast this out to their networks and show what a Chamber of Commerce is and what you do.

Hope Kennedy 24:11
Yeah. And you know, that’s very interesting, because we’re, we’re still doing that we’re able to tap into national speakers now and do in person or live stream or whatever the case is that we wouldn’t have access to had it not been for COVID. So we’re still doing hybrid type programming. Yeah.

Brandon Burton 24:37
And I think at some point, it may go away from being a hybrid, and just this is the program and we have it being broadcast as well. So absolutely, yeah. Just to reach

Hope Kennedy 24:46
out where you’re, yeah. So you have to go where your members are. Yeah, and if they’re stuck at their desk, let’s go to them there.

Brandon Burton 24:52
Right. Well tell us more about the chamber roadshow and what that entails because that obviously caught some attention initially. So let’s say let’s learn more about that program. Oh, well.

Hope Kennedy 25:05
So it all starts with a story. And I think as chambers you’re starting to catch the theme of of our world in those times is we were storytellers. And we have to be able to tell the story of how great we are as an organization, but then also realize that it’s not about us, it’s about our members and telling their story. So after we could go back to the office, during the the height of the pandemic, and we were all at home, I bought the ring light that everybody buys, because I was on Zoom, and my house obviously wasn’t set up for a professional studio. But then I also said, I can’t look like this on, you know, national broadcast, I need to look presentable. So anyways, I had this zoom light, and we had some other video equipment at our office, we had a tripod, and I literally came back to the office when we opened up and I just looked around, and we have a very beautiful office, very big boardroom. It was empty, 100% empty. And I sat there and I just said, I don’t I don’t know what to do. I literally have no idea how to help my members, or what, what to do. We what started. That was my members were calling me saying, Hey, can you help us get our message out about being open? And I said, Well, absolutely. So I called one of our board members who owns an LED truck, you know, the LED signs, change the advertising. And he and I created a we are open logo that was on the side of his truck. And he would go sit in front of our members business that says we are open. So anybody that was open, so I put out a message and said, Hey, if you’re open, let me know what your times are. And we’ll have somebody come sit there, well, they would, they would go and sit there, they take photos, and his guys did some social media around it. And it was great. And then as things started to open back up more, that wasn’t a feasible way of getting the message out. So when I got back to the office and just tried to figure out what we were gonna do, I made a video, and it goes something like this, Hey, everybody, we’re back in the office. But we don’t really have anything to do, because we can’t, you know, put all of these events together yatta yatta yatta. So I’m going to take this show on the road, and I’m going to come to you if you’d like me to come to your business and highlight your business and your protocols for being open. Just give us a call here at the chamber and we’ll get you scheduled. Well, that video started to get that in, let me just share with you is just me in my phone. And my ring light. And the quality is terrible. The sound is awful. But the message got out. And it was organic. I did it in one take for each business and like just tell me what your what you’re doing for businesses, what we need to know about your business. Are you open? Are you curbside? How you know what’s going on? And then I’d kind of tee up at the end, any lessons learned anything you want to share with anybody? I wouldn’t edit. I put up the raw footage on YouTube and then linked it to our social pages. I did 135 videos. Wow. Over the summer two years ago, I was able to tell the story of 135 of our member businesses. My my the last official one that I did on the chamber roadshow, I got to sit down with the president of the university, Saint Leo University and do more of a like a wrap up. You know, what, what did what did you learn? You know, what, what is something that you want to share with the business community. And so it was organic storytelling, and it was natural. It was raw, there were bloopers there were laughs There was cars.

It didn’t matter. I actually had a production company reach out to me and say, Would you like us to do this for you? And I said, No, no, actually, I don’t I want it to be real. Some authenticity. Yeah, it loses the authenticity and or the organic conversation that we have. When we did that. And my staffer at the time, she was at home base, she she doesn’t leave the chamber office and she would feel the call. She’d make the schedule and I tried to do three a day geographically Be respectful and then do that Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, and then we trickle out the videos.

Brandon Burton 30:07
That’s awesome. I’d love that. And I know, it’s easier here almost to be able to make those visits and shoot the video. But then to set aside the time to upload it to YouTube and share it here and link it there. That’s where the time consuming part of it

Hope Kennedy 30:21
that is where the time consuming was. And I did not do a fabulous job of hash tagging, and, and all of the, you know, tags and different things. But again, we were learning as we went. And you can see the first one to the last one, there’s a huge difference. And, and what I probably should have led with was that I hated doing videos, I would never do a live interview on TV, because I said videos will live in infamy. Way beyond me. And then all of a sudden, here I was this, I just went into all my vulnerability and said, You know what, it’s not about me, it’s about these businesses. And so I sucked it up, and it did it. And they’re still in infamy. And I’ll live with that. Every time I turn on our YouTube channel, I have to hear my voice. Yeah.

Brandon Burton 31:17
But and I’ve seen some chambers do even a similar thing. But with, they’ll release it as a podcast, you know, go and interview the business in, you know, tell the story, and release it as a podcast. And there’s all these different ways now to be able to, you know, we always hear about chambers need to be storytellers. And there’s now a variety of different ways to be able to help get the stories out there of your chamber, and of your members and your community and things going on, and showing that you’re a convener of leaders and influencers and bring them you know, do those interviews, like you’re talking about at the college and, you know, you’re doing all the things, which is awesome.

Hope Kennedy 31:56
We we are and again it you know, when you’re in it, and you’re in the thick of it, and you know, you’re you’re trying to figure it all out, you don’t none of it was with, I’m gonna win an award, you know, none of this was for that. It was necessity for our business community. And now our members can look back and say, That was value, you provided me a value for my membership that I would not have been able to get anywhere else. You gave me a platform, you gave me a mic gave me an opportunity. And so, again, that goes back to our our being membership focused. And that we have a really good solid base and members that remember that stay members. Yeah,

Brandon Burton 32:49
that’s awesome. So I’d like to ask you, as we kind of shift gears here a little bit. As a chamber, the year finalist, how do you view the role of your chamber in your community?

Hope Kennedy 33:04
We are in a really unique position, because we are a to county, actually kind of three County Regional Chamber, we have several municipalities within our footprint of our service area. We view ourselves as the connector, the convener and the catalyst, the three C’s. We do those things extraordinarily well. And we we will say we do not have the answer. But we can sure connect you to the person that does for if they don’t let’s be the catalyst for that conversation for change or or or moving the needle as is that seems to be our buzzword here and ACCE land for for this year. And, and that is that is who we are. We are a very strong voice of business. We are extraordinarily good at ensuring a pro business environment. We will also fight against legislation. Anything that’s not pro business focused. And so we are what what makes us great and I share this because it’s it’s important for for other chambers to you cannot do business the way that you’ve always done business. This world is different. We’re not even doing business the way we did business a year ago. So as a chamber of commerce, our board knows that we have to be nimble enough within our strategic plan to be able to change and adapt to the needs of our community and what those needs are Are Not now but what they’re gonna be years from now. We We can’t stay focused on what’s happening right now or or our next event or what this or what that we have to be thinking of what this business community is going to look like, five years from now, we have to be futurist, we have to think about that. And it’s important for our board, when we’re sitting in a board meeting to have that in mind, of what is the future of our community? And how does the chamber fit into that, and some chambers and organizations have not been able to do that. And their their relevance may not be there in the years to come. And if, if you’re you’re focused or fed by one particular income source, or one particular event that’s not sustainable, as we’ve all learned, so being able to look forward and say, what, what are the needs of our community. And I can share our priorities. And because we take a very deep dive each year, when we set our strategic plan in our program of work of what was happening, and what are the effects gonna be, and the folks that sit around our boardroom table are thought leaders, and we are very comfortable being uncomfortable. And that’s part of the catalytic leadership and part of the horizons report, all of the things that I read six years ago are now you know, we’ve been working on them. And so housing and workforce, there’s a direct correlation between those. And that’s a huge priority, not just now, but we can see for the future, proper planning for your community now sets the stage for later. And think decisions that are made by certain municipalities might have unintended consequences that perhaps they haven’t thought about, and what certain actions that a governing body takes is going to have a trickle down effect later on the business community. So make sure that

every stakeholder within the conversation understands how the ecosystem works of the business community. So I think that that is that’s where we excelled and what sets us apart within our community, I do want to give a huge shout out to our region, because we have a, we call them our MOU partners. And so there are eight of us chamber CEOs that are in a partnership agreement together, that we support each other on issues. We don’t have to always agree, but we’re not going to come out against another local area Chamber. It makes a huge difference. When we have legislation in our state, when we, we all come out with a letter with all of our logos on it with all of our names on it, and say, Hey, we are now speaking for the entire region, this business community in it, they pay attention. So so we don’t do this alone in a silo with all of our all of the things I just talked about being a connector convener and a catalyst, we work very hard at making sure that we are bringing together the whole region.

Brandon Burton 38:45
That’s fantastic. Yeah, a lot more impact can happen that way, for sure. Absolutely. Um, what would be maybe a tip or an action item that you might suggest for listeners who are interested in taking their chamber up to the next level.

Action Item/Tip for Chamber Champions

Hope Kennedy 39:02
It all starts, it starts with you, as the CEO, as the leader of your organization and in ensuring that you have a really good understanding or a picture of where you want to take the organization with one thing in mind and that your members and the community in which you serve, and then ensuring that your board of directors is there right there with you that they are preaching the they are walking the talk, you know, whatever, whatever you want to come up with. They’re they’re right there with you and that you all have one goal in mind and that is x and that everybody’s there on the same page that there’s consensus or at least conversation around the consensus and just thinking towards towards the future of what? Look at the past of why chambers exist became a chamber in the very first place. And then look at that and start to look further ahead.

Brandon Burton 40:16
I like that. As we wrap things up here, I wanted to ask you, I know chambers all over are always interested in the future. You mentioned chambers need to be futurist. How do you see the future chambers and their purpose going forward?

Future of Chambers

Hope Kennedy 40:34
So I think that chambers are in a very unique position right now. Every every one is looking to someone to to help heal, fix, try and make better, whatever was broken a few years ago. So as chambers, I think this is our opportunity to really take the lead in our communities and to really elevate our organizations by coming out with a a plan of action for the future, taking that show to the commissioners, to the City Council, to your legislators and saying, This is what we’re going to do. How are you going to help us get there? Because we are the voice, we’re the leading voice of business and chambers, chambers have a very unique opportunity. And if we don’t seize them, your relevance within in your communities are probably questionable. Yeah. So, so that that’s my that’s my tidbit.

Brandon Burton 41:44
I think you’re absolutely right. But hope I wanted to give you an opportunity to share any contact information. If any listeners wanted to reach out and connect with you about how you guys are doing things in the north Tampa Bay chamber, what would be the best way for them to reach out and connect?

Connect with Hope Kennedy

Hope Kennedy 42:00
Absolutely, please, I’d love to talk chamber to anybody that will listen, my email address is hkennedy@northtampabaychamber.com case our URL couldn’t get any longer. And that’s the easiest way to connect with me, you can check out our chamber website or social media. I’m very easily Google trouble. You can find Google and YouTube, you can watch all the chamber roadshow videos you ever wanted to watch,

Brandon Burton 42:39
you know what I will. I’ll link to that in our show notes. And see those videos that are out there to live on forever. And I’ll get your contact information in the show notes as well so people can can find that and reach out and connect with you. But hope I appreciate you joining me today on Chamber Chat Podcast. And I think you guys are doing some wonderful things there and the North Tampa Bay area and I wish you guys Best of luck as chamber the year.

Hope Kennedy 43:07
Thank you so much, Brandon for having me. And we’ll we’ll circle back when we come home with the hardware.

Brandon Burton 43:12
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